Tango01 | 10 Sep 2020 9:59 p.m. PST |
…of Suisun Bay "On the northwest side of Suisun Bay, just outside San Francisco, a fleet of ghost ships is slowly disappearing.
Known to locals as the Mothball Fleet, the collection of U.S. Navy and merchant reserve vessels has been in the bay since the end of World War II. At that time, thousands of surplus ships were allocated to a National Defense Reserve Fleet (NDRF), intended for deployment during military actions and national emergencies. In addition to Suisun Bay, fleets were moored at ports in Virginia, Texas, New York, North Carolina, Alabama, Oregon, and Washington…"
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Amicalement Armand
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Scafcom1 | 10 Sep 2020 11:39 p.m. PST |
Article is from 2013. As of December 2019 only 8 ships remained there. |
Virtualscratchbuilder | 11 Sep 2020 5:17 a.m. PST |
I seem to remember at one point that an environmental group sued the navy, asking the court to make the navy move the ships because they were harming the ecology of the bay, while another group sued the navy, asking the court to prevent the navy from moving the ships because doing so would harm other ecological environments. |
skipper John | 11 Sep 2020 6:45 a.m. PST |
I love it when the idiots fight among themselves! |
StoneMtnMinis | 11 Sep 2020 11:06 a.m. PST |
@ skipper johnn |
Inch High Guy | 11 Sep 2020 11:21 a.m. PST |
"Never interrupt your enemy when he's busy making a mistake." |
Tango01 | 11 Sep 2020 12:09 p.m. PST |
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Oberlindes Sol LIC | 11 Sep 2020 7:57 p.m. PST |
Well, the environmental problems posed by the ships are real. What do you think is the right solution? |
walkabout | 11 Sep 2020 9:32 p.m. PST |
I love it when idiots don't know what they're talking about and show it. |
Tango01 | 12 Sep 2020 12:26 p.m. PST |
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EJNashIII | 12 Sep 2020 4:14 p.m. PST |
asbestos filled junk at this point. |
Mark 1 | 12 Sep 2020 7:54 p.m. PST |
asbestos filled junk at this point Asbestos filled rusting hulks covered with lead-based paint and filled with machinery that no one but an 80 year old volunteer at a floating museum knows how to repair or operate. 50 year old ships are just not that useful as a reserve, unless you have a lot of reservists around who served 50+ years ago.
Still, back in 2013, it was an interesting sight to see. Best choices for use, though, were to see if anyone wanted them as museum ships, and then scrap the rest of the hulks in the most economical and safe way they could. Of course, they could also have been used for bombing practice.
That was what I liked to use them for.
And the best of the targets did in fact make it to become a museum ship. Good for her. But she had been a fun target for bombing runs. -Mark (aka: Mk 1) |
Tango01 | 13 Sep 2020 4:05 p.m. PST |
Which is the name of that battleship?…. Amicalement Armand |
Murvihill | 14 Sep 2020 3:38 p.m. PST |
I think it was the Iowa, didn't it end up in Los Angeles? |
Yellow Admiral | 15 Sep 2020 1:57 a.m. PST |
It was the USS Iowa, and it's in the Port of Los Angeles. Ironically, I've been closer to it there, 377 miles from home, than I ever got when it lived on my home body of water. A few years back, our ferry to Catalina went right by it. She was quite a sight passing under the Golden Gate bridge.
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