Tango01 | 09 Sep 2020 8:58 p.m. PST |
… army.17-Dragoon regiment. Nice job…
Main page link Amicalement Armand
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Durban Gamer | 10 Sep 2020 4:25 a.m. PST |
Very pretty. I just finished converted those round American water bottles to rectangular silver British ones on my dismounted 15mm Minifigs British 17th Light Dragoons! |
Brechtel198 | 10 Sep 2020 5:00 a.m. PST |
Excellent-very well done. |
Extrabio1947 | 10 Sep 2020 6:13 a.m. PST |
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historygamer | 10 Sep 2020 6:23 a.m. PST |
Well done, but a few historical nits for those painting these cavalrymen in the future: 1. Canteens were likely tin, but if wood, certainly not painted. 2. British army blankets were off-white, not red. Well documented. 3. Musician should be in reverse colors. 4. Here is a link to the recreated unit that might also help with some details – 17ld.blogspot.com |
Pan Marek | 10 Sep 2020 7:16 a.m. PST |
What figure manufacturer are these? |
John the OFM | 10 Sep 2020 7:59 a.m. PST |
They look like Perry. Lefferts shows a very detailed saddle cloth, which luckily for the painter is pretty much obscured. link Lefferts also shows a red cloak, and has a completely different musician uniform. Hinchliffe has that figure. |
historygamer | 10 Sep 2020 8:17 a.m. PST |
Lefferts has some serious flaws when it comes to British uniforms. His work (while often outdated) is much better for American uniforms. The standard British army blanket of natural colored wool is very well documented now. |
historygamer | 10 Sep 2020 8:43 a.m. PST |
Here, let me provide a few examples: Here is a link to Lt. General Howe plate. link So the buttons should be set in threes for a Lt. General. Lt. Generals also only wore one epaulette on their right shoulder, not two. The sash across his chest should likely be blue, not red. I'm not really sure what that hat is representing, as it is neither a cocked hat from the F&I war, nor a cocked hat representative of the AWI period either. Watches were not worn in the waistcoat pocket (it will fall out there), but were worn in a specal pocket in the breeches. I can't tell from the painting if he is wearing lace, but generals did not wear laced coats. Instead, they either wore an embroidered dress coat, or an unlaced/non-embroidered coat for everyday wear (buttons set in correct pattern according to his rank). The platess showing ORs are not a whole lot better, and some of his descriptions in the book of British soldiers are well wide of the mark. That said, you are likely corect if you are inferring this painted used that book as a guide. |
John the OFM | 10 Sep 2020 9:15 a.m. PST |
Lefferts, for all his flaws, is still miles ahead of the prints we see in the mid 19th Century. And he is still the beginning of serious research into AWI uniforms. Many current, so-called "authoritative" uniform books still copy his work, with minor modifications, if any. My own 17th LD are Hinchliffe, with that bugler. I wonder just how accurate that bugler is? Not that I'm going to retire him after all his years of fine service. I also think that Lefferts, and Molo too, for that matter, rely a bit too much on "deserter descriptions". But that's how we get the nice variety of militia uniformed figures. By the way, that is a nice paint job. I do think it's rather impolite to criticize something lifted from someone else's blog who didn't post it himself on TMP. Not that that stops me from slagging figures on the Needs More Boobies Board. |
historygamer | 10 Sep 2020 9:35 a.m. PST |
Yeah, I missed the bugler. Now that is wrong. Hunting horn would be correct. I feel uncomfortable critizing secondary work posted here too, but without comment people are likely to repeat the errors. In regards to Mollo's work, I believe for many/most of the Crown figures, he used period portraits. Not all, but many. Honestly, for Crown stuff, it really wouldn't occur me to even look at Leffert's work. His description of British Marines (my re-enactment unit) are just off the charts wrong. And I agree, deserter descriptions always makes me wonder if the culprit put something else on beforedeparting, thus skewing the description. |
Tango01 | 10 Sep 2020 10:58 a.m. PST |
Glad you like them boys!. (smile) Amicalement Armand
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Bill N | 10 Sep 2020 12:21 p.m. PST |
Hopefully something we can agree on. The painting is technically excellent. I would love to have the troops of my 17th LD have caps that detailed. The pistol covers look like fur. The feed bags are highlighted in a way that brings out their folds. The faces. When I first looked at the pictures I thought they might be computer generated. |
Tango01 | 11 Sep 2020 12:38 p.m. PST |
Happy you like them too my friend! (smile) Amicalement Armand |
historygamer | 11 Sep 2020 2:07 p.m. PST |
Yes, the painting technique is very well done. :-) |