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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2017 9:00 p.m. PST

"During World War Two, thousands of Japanese pilots volunteered to be kamikaze, suicidally crashing their planes in the name of their emperor. More than 70 years on, the BBC's Mariko Oi asks what these once revered men mean to Japan's youth.

Irrational, heroic and stupid: this was what three young people in Tokyo said when I asked them about their views on the kamikaze.

"Heroic?" queried Shunpei, of his younger brother Sho's choice of word. "I didn't realize you were so right wing?"

It is difficult to verify the figures but it is believed that 3-4,000 Japanese pilots crashed their planes into an enemy target on purpose…"
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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2017 9:04 p.m. PST

Of course that was NOT the original tittle of thread… it was "How Japan's youth see the kamikaze pilots of WW2"…

Oh!… the BUG …. he always finds new ways to….(smile)


deephorse04 Nov 2017 8:27 a.m. PST

I don't know, at least "Oasis of Desolation" made me look. Perhaps you could give all your topics wierd or obscure titles?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2017 10:43 a.m. PST



Legion 405 Nov 2017 7:03 a.m. PST

The Japanese youth of today, like in many other countries that fought in WWII are from a completely different paradigm …

In most cases that may be a good thing. However, e.g. if war breaks out with North Korea. That paradigm/mind set could change.

Skarper06 Nov 2017 7:55 a.m. PST

There is a very disturbing right wing element in Japanese society and politics which I think is very dangerous. That younger people are so apathetic and ignorant about the subject makes it even more so. The majority of Japanese people are so ground down by overwork or consumed by popular culture and consumerism that they pay little attention to politics and often don't vote.

Legion 406 Nov 2017 8:09 a.m. PST

Hopefully if need be their military forces will step up to the plate if war breaks out in Korea. Their islands may be targeted by Un/NoKos. So they have a vested interest, if for no other reason their own survival.

Hopefully if Korean War goes hot again. The the ROK and USA won't be the only ones combatting the NoKos.

With Japan being in range of the NoKos missiles. They might want/need to take aggressive action. Hopefully the aggressiveness of the WWII IJFs will be seen. At least to a limited range. I.e.: the Bushido Code without the corruption of the WWII militarists, etc., …

But regardless if war comes about, the ROK, USA and [possibly] the Japanese will have to show aggressiveness, effectiveness and efficiency. To the defeat one of the most oppressive dictatorships left on the planet. The world will not mourn Un and his supporters being removed.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP06 Nov 2017 10:52 a.m. PST

Maybe… but if you see the news when they put on sea their last "Aircraft Carrier"… seems to be there some military feeling…

Mostly because of the news from North Korea…

The Japanese are proud people…


Legion 406 Nov 2017 11:59 a.m. PST

Well if it does come to a shoot'n war. Let's hope now that the JSDF is on our side. They will show the "aggressiveness" and "determination" as they did in WWII.

That was their ground forces' "saving grace". Their aggressiveness and willingness to fight to the death. Otherwise, their Infantry Weapons and Armor, etc., were 2d rate. Compared to many others at that time. But … regardless they fought to death in many cases. I'd hope they show those same "attributes" is it came to a ground war with the NoKos.

However, neither the NoKos or JSDFs have seen any combat for decades. So, we will just have to see who the "baddest" MoFos are.

My $ money… is on the NoKos … They are fanatics that would even give the WWII IJFs a run for the money, IMO …

Regardless, the USA's air and sea launched assets will be a big factor in the NoKos' defeat.

number4 Inactive Member08 Nov 2017 7:04 p.m. PST

Then there's the ROK units, especially the Marines who earned a terrifying name for themselves in Vietnam… yes, that was a generation ago, but old habits die hard

Legion 409 Nov 2017 3:35 p.m. PST

Yes, we were told that some of the ROKs in Vietnam were very effective. If for no other reason, they hated the Communist and their supporters in any form.

But IMO, if it comes down to the ROKs vs. the NoKos … the ROKs will come out on top. With most of the losses being to the North. But I don't doubt the ROKs will pay a price as well. However, in the end the Koreas will be united under the democratic, capitalist South.

And Korea, the region and the world will be better off with Un & Co. gone, done, finished, dead …

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