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Sarge Joe06 Sep 2020 5:13 a.m. PST

yes about the cosassaks regiments denisov uniforms and rehons codeev sayev uniform / region

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP06 Sep 2020 9:18 a.m. PST

While there were a number of different types of Cossacks (my mother is descended from Ukrainian cossacks) the most numerous by far were Don Cossacks – their sotnias (regiments) had about 500 – 600 troopers and their uniforms were pretty simple – dark blue trousers and jackets and dark blue caps

Great irregular and light cavalry, but not the sort of chaps you would want to depend on for a battle winning charge (or to guard your whiskey barrels)

Here is a website you might want to check out

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There is an Osprey on them as well

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP06 Sep 2020 11:17 a.m. PST

How I wish we could help you with phrasing your questions. They are very hard to follow, but there is such a wealth of expertise here and folk who are so happy to give expert advice.

What is your native language? Have you tried Google translate (yes, I know it is very poor, but it does get the message across)? There are many here to want to answer you.

Help them, to help you.

Prince of Essling06 Sep 2020 12:20 p.m. PST

For cossacks see "HISTORICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE CLOTHING AND ARMS OF THE RUSSIAN ARMY – Volume 18 Irregular Troops and Temporary Forces. 1801-1825" by A.V. VISKOVATOV – illustrations are in colour PDF link

For Mark Conrad's translation into English see link

Stephen Summerfield's "Cossack Hurrah!" page 15 says
"War of 1805
In 1805, a Russian army led by Marshal Kutusov marched with a contingent of the Don Cossacks arrived too late to join the Austrians at Ulm before their capitulation. the remnants of the Austrian army and the Russians were defeated at Austerlitz on 2nd December 1805 forcing the Austrian(s to) withdraw from the Coalition."

Scott Bowden's "The Glory Years 1805-1807 Napoleon and Austerlitz" page 480 shows Sysoev's Cossack Regiment at the Battle of Durrenstein – so I would surmise it was a Don regiment.

Sarge Joe06 Sep 2020 12:44 p.m. PST

thanks for al the english links my rusian is no good by any standard yes so fighting cossacks al in the same colour? i
know the hit and run tactics once again thanks

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP06 Sep 2020 2:33 p.m. PST

Your Russian is no good. So what is your home language?

Your profile says Netherlands. That is easily translated into English if that is true.

Please give us some help to help you. Maybe post your question in Dutch if all else fails?

Cuprum206 Sep 2020 7:07 p.m. PST

Denisov commanded the Life Guards Cossacks at the Battle of Austerlitz. The Cossacks distinguished themselves in battle, saving the Russian guard from defeat during the retreat, fighting against the French hussars and horse rangers pursuing them. In terms of their fighting qualities, the Guards Cossacks did not differ from other Guards cavalry. These Cossacks had a special uniform (1804-1809):

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NCO and officer (in frock coat) of the Guards Cossacks


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Chief Officer of the Cossack Life Guards Regiment. Russia, 1804-09

Sarge Joe07 Sep 2020 1:32 a.m. PST

my native language is dutch

Sarge Joe07 Sep 2020 1:49 a.m. PST

dear dead head do not insult me like no one writes english or speaks so good as you?

Prince of Essling07 Sep 2020 1:51 a.m. PST

Though a Denisov may have commanded the Guard Cossacks (2 squadrons) there is another Denisov commanding a 5 squadron Pulk serving with Dokhturov's Column at Austerlitz. I assume it is the latter Sarge Joe is interested in.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP07 Sep 2020 1:53 a.m. PST

Insult? I was trying to help. Google translate is not perfect, but would be a great assistance to you and clearer questions would get the answers you seek. I wish you the very best.

Prince of Essling07 Sep 2020 1:58 a.m. PST

@Sarge Joe
Ik weet zeker dat hij niet probeerde te vergrijp veroorzaken, gewoon proberen om een methode te vinden voor ons allemaal native Engels sprekenden om echt te begrijpen uw vragen. momenteel hebben we te proberen en te lezen tussen de regels. Soms niet erg succesvol.

Above is a Google translation of below:
I am sure he was not trying to cause offence, just trying to find a method for all of us native English speakers to truly understand your questions. Currently we are having to try and read between the lines. Sometimes not very successfully.

Sarge Joe07 Sep 2020 2:07 a.m. PST

i wil try to google translate prog to down load i am not that eager to download stuf progams and stuf i know the guard regiment b.t. w. my gand mother was from the ukrian the other regiments also ukrian born in 1899 al ready 55 years dead cominisme no good for her went Germany after
the big one
from germany saw hitler coming and his maniacs went to the netherlands

Prince of Essling07 Sep 2020 5:00 a.m. PST

@Sarge Joe, no need to down load a programme. Just google Dutch to English translation, insert text & then cut & paste the English version into this Forum and click submit.
I must admit I used Microsoft translate.


Het niet nodig om een programma te laden. Google Gewoon Nederlands naar Engelse vertaling, voeg tekst in & knip de Engelse versie in dit Forum en klik op submit. Ik moet toegeven dat ik Microsoft translate heb gebruikt.

4th Cuirassier07 Sep 2020 5:48 a.m. PST

If somebody can't be @rsed to post intelligible questions, I certainly can't be @rsed to work out what they mean and answer them.

COL Scott ret08 Sep 2020 10:10 p.m. PST

Sarge, don't worry about a few grumpy Gronards however I believe that most are trying to help.

Stoppage09 Sep 2020 12:12 p.m. PST

The depictions of the white over orange/black plume is very interesting:

The first image renders the plume as white over brown.

The second (figurine) is white over red/black.

The third is the closest – white over orange/black.

14Bore09 Sep 2020 4:27 p.m. PST

Tango told me long ago the language translate isn't perfect but better than nothing

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