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Tango0103 Aug 2020 9:27 p.m. PST

…very badly.


"When General Omar Bradley, the first chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, addressed the U.S. Congress in 1951, he warned that to react to a massive communist Chinese counter-offensive across the Yalu River by sending U.S. troops into Manchuria would be "the wrong war, at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and with the wrong enemy." By the time the People's Republic of China (PRC), the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the Republic of Korea, and the United States finished hammering out a ceasefire three years later, the border had shifted a few miles to the north, while 36,000 Americans and approximately 3 million Koreans had lost their lives.

Experts, historians, and even a sitting U.S. senator have heralded a "new Cold War" with China. The phrase even entered official discourse after the Global Times — a quasi-official Chinese Communist Party English-language media outlet — fired off the Twitter hashtag #newcoldwar.

Faced with a rising peer competitor for the first time since 1991, the greatest risk is not that Americans would fail to learn the Cold War's lessons, but that they are learning the wrong ones. In recalling a heroic age when tough-minded American diplomats out-thought their Soviet counterparts, spreading peace and prosperity liberally about the globe, entrapping the Kremlin in snares of its own devising, the new cold warriors have overlooked the true architect of the United States' greatest setbacks during the Cold War — the very People's Republic of China they wish to confront today…"
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Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2020 9:58 p.m. PST

It appears the author doesn't know the difference between Cold War and Hot War. Basically propaganda.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2020 7:14 a.m. PST

Sounds about right … Short answer – In a hot war … a whole lot of people die.

Tango0104 Aug 2020 12:09 p.m. PST

Glup!…

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ReallySameSeneffeAsBefore04 Aug 2020 12:26 p.m. PST

I think this crew is pretty upfront about its absolute pacifist/isolationist stance- so definitely a polemic rather than an objective analysis. I expect it will be widely quoted by the Chinese state media though.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik04 Aug 2020 7:09 p.m. PST

The author isn't wrong. A cold war can include wars by proxy that are hot. Both the Korean and Vietnam wars were hot wars ("police actions" my arse) within the context of the cold war between capitalism and communism.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2020 9:02 a.m. PST

Yes both of those wars were by proxy. You could even look at Afghanistan with the US[and Saudis] supporting the Muj vs. the USSR. And now with Putin/Russia supporting the Taliban vs. the West, e.g. – the US, UK, etc.

Or before that the USSR's/Russia's support of many of the Arab Forces in the Mid East & North Africa. Vs. Israel being supported by the US and a few European nations at times. Primarily with arms of all types & sizes.

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