"Giving the CMH to Generals in WWII" Topic
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Korvessa | 21 Jul 2020 1:29 p.m. PST |
First off – this is not meant as any disrespect to soldiers who truly earned it – especially enlisted or field grade officers. But after reading an account of Omaha beach, was just wondering what exactly it was – other than being the son of a former president, that was worth upgrading Roosevelt from a Distinguished Service Cross to a Medal of Honor? I was never all that impressed with the idea that "they landed us in the wrong place, but let's start the fight here" A gazillion paratroopers did the same thing. What else was he supposed to do? I think Cota was more deserving of having his DSC upgraded than Roosevelt. Of course, I don't think MacArthur deserved his either. |
Wackmole9 | 21 Jul 2020 3:54 p.m. PST |
It was FDR idea and he had to do something to keep Macarthur from coming home. He might tell everyone about the president's plan for the Philippines force to " lay down a butt". Ted Roosevelt was family and I think deserved it and So did Cota and Winters. |
Marc33594 | 21 Jul 2020 4:20 p.m. PST |
Well given he was at Utah Beach, not Omaha we could start there. Believe it was well deserved. And my dad DID land in one of the first assault waves on Omaha :) |
Korvessa | 21 Jul 2020 5:17 p.m. PST |
MARC, I know TR was at Utah. I was just reading an account of Omaha, and reading what Cota did – and having read about Utah also, it struck me that TR didn't do more than Cota and Cota was in a much worse situation. By the way, God bless men like your dad – those men in the 1st wave were the heroes. My dad (with the 82nd) once told me that being a paratrooper took less courage than being in that 1st wave. |
Bill N | 21 Jul 2020 5:32 p.m. PST |
If we could ask him I suspect that Theodore Roosevelt Jr. would rather have been honored with command of a division than with the MOH. Death cheated him of the divisional command. The posthumous MOH was the best we could do. |
Skarper | 21 Jul 2020 9:02 p.m. PST |
Medals always have a political dimension. They are tools 'pour encourager les autres'. 'Too many awards and punishments mean discipline is breaking down.' is in Sun Tzu's art of war. There are many who deserve an award who do not get one, and many who don't who do. |
Marc33594 | 22 Jul 2020 8:46 a.m. PST |
My apologies and it becomes evident when re-reading what you wrote. And all good :) |
jdginaz | 22 Jul 2020 11:27 p.m. PST |
@Wackmole9 Curious what did Winters do to earn a MOH? |
Legion 4 | 23 Jul 2020 8:06 a.m. PST |
Something else to remember that metals are given for a certain event/incident or for overall performance. Sometimes referred an end of tour award. Medals always have a political dimension. Some certainly for those of higher ranks. But generally for most Enlisted/Junior NCOs and Officers. Little politics if any were involved. |
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