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Sarge Joe18 Jul 2020 2:46 a.m. PST

austerlitz my favorite builing austerliz with 8000 figs + so what is the a war game landscape hiles so high are they have height line maps 300m is ? have space inthe garage 2/3 m o k?

Sarge Joe18 Jul 2020 4:42 a.m. PST

my units are1-10

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP18 Jul 2020 8:17 a.m. PST

Do I recall you were a regular contributor some years ago? If so welcome back, if I am wrong apologies.

Yes I now find back then you were Serge Joe

Do I understand you are hoping to recreate Austerlitz? If you are asking about dimensions, it would help to know the scale of the figures you are using

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP18 Jul 2020 10:01 a.m. PST

Talk to us about ground scale, Sarge. Once I know how much frontage a battalion needs, I can help.

Sarge Joe18 Jul 2020 1:58 p.m. PST

took me a long time to be back yeah stil have plenty questions

Sarge Joe18 Jul 2020 2:14 p.m. PST

yes try to build to detail thills buildings and so grts

Widowson18 Jul 2020 5:06 p.m. PST

This is why I always advise wargamers to put their figures as close together as possible on the move stands. Shoulder to shoulder is best. That will give you your best ground scale.

Say a company consists of 120 men and is in 3 ranks of 40 men each. In round numbers let's give each man 24" of frontage (I think French regulations were for 22", but let's not quibble), that makes the company 80 feet wide.

However you choose to create your company of miniatures. Their frontage, however wide that might be, is going to be equal to 80 feet scale. If you crowd your figures shoulder to shoulder as tight as they can fit, on the smallest possible move stand, your ground scale will be as big as it can be. If your figures are spread out on a larger move stand, your ground scale is going to shrink and you will need a bigger tabletop.

SHaT198418 Jul 2020 5:42 p.m. PST

hi
Austerlitz the building- a giant Chateau.
Austerlitz the battlefield- equally a large area.
Yes the elevations are between (it appears from later styled ordnance maps) 150- 350m maximum.

In fact from Turas visibility all across the valley the next heights are the Pratzen.

The slowly elevation decreasing 'streams' with swampy soggy edges of varying width are the opposite of the grander 'heights'. The 'slopes' in most places are very smooth gradients. Only a few 'extreme' sharp elevations occur on the battelfield, all well known.

I'm looking at a scale recreation of the Goldbach arena too, though not doing anything about matching troop scales. I have neither space nor funding of a museum (or movie director)…
regards dave

4th Cuirassier19 Jul 2020 5:12 a.m. PST

Robert and Widowson's suggestions make much sense.

How wide was the frontage per man of heavy and light cavalry? This is somehow much harder to pin down than the equivalent for infantry.

Sarge Joe20 Jul 2020 5:04 a.m. PST

so in short breedte en hoogte in verhouding met 28 mm figs? g

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP20 Jul 2020 5:48 a.m. PST

Sarge, long answer is to work out your ground scale by measuring your unit frontage and compare it to a good scaled map of Austerlitz. I think with 8,000 figures at a 1:10, you're going to have to "bathtub" the battle to a degree, since that only gives you 80,000 troops in a battle with twice that many soldiers.

But I also don't think 8,000 figures will fit on a 3 meter board.

What you do is find out how big your battle was, and decide how big your table can be. That gives you your ground scale, and from that you work out what your castings and units represent. I think you're going to wind up with 1 meter=4 Km, and your units will be brigades or divisions.

Sarge Joe20 Jul 2020 12:28 p.m. PST

thanks to you all grts

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