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Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2020 12:08 a.m. PST

In what is my first Seven Years War game in some years, I decided to fight Leuthen. The whole battle is beyond my scope in terms of space, time & figures so I planned a scaled down version of Frederick the Great's masterful outflanking attack on Nadasty's corps on the Austrian left flank.

The table was already sey up when the participants arrived.

A panoramic view from the north end

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and the south end

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The Prussians heavily outnumbered the Austrians but had the difficult task of fighting through to the outskirts of Leuthen by game turn 8.

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The "hook": masses of Prussian cavalry & the Grenadier brigade.

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Part of the centre, where the Prussians needed to capture a forest & the small village of Sagschutz.

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The Prussian left flank where the Garrison battalions & ex-Saxon fusiliers were meant to feint towards Leuthen.

The Prussians advance, with Fred. the G. looking on.

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The Austrians were waiting

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Pandour were sent to garrison Sagschutz

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And Leuthen village.

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The Austrians counter attack

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The off-table Austrian cavalry arrive (apologies_ I forgot to photograph them on table!)


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The weaker Garrison & Fusilier brigades crumble

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The Prussian cavalry is repulsed & history is reversed.

14Bore11 Jul 2020 5:43 a.m. PST

Wow, but if it can't change why play it?
Kay is next up on my list, doubt it will change outcome.

John Leahy11 Jul 2020 11:23 a.m. PST

Great looking game! thumbs up thumbs up

Are these 1/72? I believe so. Where did you find the heavy Cav and some of the other figs? I have infantry for both sides and the Prussian Hussars, Austrian Dragoons and austrian artillery. I also have some Grenzers in metal from a 20mm line available years ago. I appreciate any info you might have.

Thank you.


Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2020 12:17 p.m. PST

But it did change, 14Bore. Prussia didn't get to capture Leuthen and to roll up the entire Austrian army.

As I'm sure you know, when you re-fight an historical battle,
you set up the topography, scale down the troops & let your skill & the dice decide from then on.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2020 12:23 p.m. PST

@ John.

Apart from 2 of the 3 Grenzer units & Fred himself, no metal figures: all HaT, Revell, Zvesda, Italeri 1/72 figures (+ a few Airfix & ACTA).

The cavalry is a challenge. The Austrians have the HaT Nap. French Horse Grenadiers with head swops as a dragoon unit & the Prussians have the HaT 1806 Prussian dragoons similarly re-headed.

The two Prussian cuirassier units are Italeri 1805 Prussians with tricornes (& pigtails!!) added. I have the zvesda Nap Saxon cuirassiers awaiting a similar re-purposing as Austrian cuirassiers.

All these sets are still available but I have no more tricornes available to do any more conversions.Sad.

John Leahy11 Jul 2020 5:51 p.m. PST

Ok, that helps a lot. Prussian artillery consisted of……? How about Austrian Hussars?



Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2020 10:21 p.m. PST

No problem, John.

As you know, you need to be a bit creative as Zvezda & HaT have stopped/slowed after promising starts.

My Prussian artillery crew are from the ACTA AWI sets. The guns & wagons from the Zvezda GNW artillery sets.

Nothing is 100% accurate but pretty close.

What is 100% accurate, without any modifications, are the Airfix Hussars as Austrians. I put them on different horses but only to get something sturdier.

I could do with another box of these if I could get them.

BTW converting Italeri Nap. Hussars…..I'm proud of this one:


(you *do* know Bennos? I'd like to see you there).

John Leahy12 Jul 2020 4:40 a.m. PST

Hi. I know of Benno. Just did not know he had a forum. I'll join it. I love those conversions! That's just brilliant! Are you looking for just the rider for those Airfix hussars? I may have some. I will see if I can find them. I'm going to pickup more of those Horse Grenadiers. Outland Games has a range of 20mm SYW figs. Sadly, the website has been closed for years. You can still see pics of painted figs in that range online. That's where my Grenzers are from. Lancer Miniatures makes some infantry but no cav in 20mm.

I think I may also buy some of the Hat infantry. I like that you can choose the Hat for the Prussians. I also have been looking for STL files for my resin printer. I found
Naps, AWI and Marlborough figs but no SYW ones so far. I'll keep looking.

Thanks for the help. It's greatly appreciated!


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