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Bozkashi Jones03 Jul 2020 4:51 a.m. PST

Some of you may remember I was running a campaign based on Operation Earnest Will nearly a year ago now with my son. We've not progressed since then, largely because I didn't have a couple of key things in the Iranian ORBAT which were vital for the next game; namely the improvised mine-layer Iran Ajr and a cluster of Boghammar speed boats.

Well, young Henry has been badgering me to finish the campaign, so I've got a couple of things finished.

The Iran Ajr was a 176' former Japanese landing ship, captured by the US on the night of the 21/22 September 1987. I couldn't find anything suitable in the Navwar catalogue, so I thought I'd scratch-build her for our next game 'In the Heat of the Night'.

She's not completely accurate, but I'm still quite pleased with the result. It was a satisfying build, though I suppose it's quite a bit of effort for a ship I'll only ever use in one scenario!

Construction was fairly standard, using various thicknesses of plasticard. The nice thing about scratch-building though is that it's possible to get quite fine gunwhales, which look better that thick mouldings.

While I was in the mood, I also cobbled together some 'boghammar' speedboats out of scraps:

From photographs, most seem to have been grey, but green and red hulls were also occasionally seen, so I thought I'd add a bit of colour:

The black deck-houses were meant to represent the steering position, but are way too big. Still, they'll look the part from 3' away, so I'm not too worried.

Iran Ajr on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Ajr
Boghammar on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boghammar

Earnest Will campaign:

Game 1: Highway to the Danger Zone TMP link
Game 2: The Silkworm Envelope TMP link
Game 3: Indian Country TMP link

Hopefully an AAR for Game 4 will be along next week.

Happy gaming,

Nick

HMS Exeter03 Jul 2020 6:29 a.m. PST

I might add some pin wire masts but, apart from that, you did a 4.0 job on that. Quite impressive.

Someday, somehow, somewhere, somebody is going to figure out a practical way to model kingposts. That will be a fine day indeed.

colkitto03 Jul 2020 1:20 p.m. PST

Delighted to see this back on the agenda, and looking forward to the next episode. Some inspiration on the scratch-building front too!

Yes, kingposts. I have some WW2 merchants awaiting a decision on whether I can think of something or whether I am just going to do without. I am finding it hard enough to drill one hole, never mind two in just the right place …

HMS Exeter03 Jul 2020 3:31 p.m. PST

CinC, or Legions 4 Hire at present, do separate tripod masts. I reached out to CinC before the changeover about doing Kingposts, but he said he was winding down to the transfer. I approached Viking Forge, who indicated doing masts for models was something of a pain, and kingposts would be way worse.

I think the solution may be spot welding pin wire together in various span widths. The legs would be left extra long so they could be cut to height. I could be crazy, I know jack about welding, but it seems an intuitive fix.

Perhaps someone with welding knowledge could weigh in on this.

David Manley04 Jul 2020 11:17 a.m. PST

Sounds like an ideal job for some 3D printed fittings

colkitto04 Jul 2020 12:43 p.m. PST

It'll be the drilling of holes in the right place in 1/3000th that'll be the problem for me. If I could manage that, kingposts would be a breeze. Sort of. (Just gluing them on would probably be too vulnerable.)

HMS Exeter04 Jul 2020 7:06 p.m. PST

@colkitto

Yes, gluing would not work. Drill and pin are a must. Siting the holes wouldn't be easy, but doable. The nightmare is setting the crosspiece.

@Manley

3D printing might work, but I am concerned that to make them strong enuff would require they be too "beefy," and if reasonably accurate would require they be too flimsy. 3D printing would afford a substantial improvement in detail over bare pin wire.

Much to consider.

Bozkashi Jones05 Jul 2020 3:37 a.m. PST

Thanks for the kind words gents.

Yep – I reckon you're right; I should have drilled some holes and fitted some masts. I've done this with previous scratch builds, so I'm not sure why I didn't do it this time!

And yes: drill and pin is most definitely a must.

hindsTMP Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2020 10:46 a.m. PST

If you want strong masts, you could solder together pieces of fine steel wire; I use steel instrument strings.

Strings here: smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TBPQ5T9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1. The pack contains strings in diameters of .009" to .042", which are described as "high carbon steel core". Presumably to solder them, you would want to pull them through a piece of folded sandpaper a couple of times, as a good solder joint requires a clean surface.

Soldering stations here: micromark.com/search?keywords=soldering%20station

Flux here: hnflux.com.

Note the metal to be soldered, the solder, and the flux must be matched.

Soldering is a worthwhile hobby skill to learn. If you do the joint properly, the solder at the joint is essentially invisible.

MH

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