Editor Gwen | 27 Jun 2020 5:58 p.m. PST |
I wanted to show you some of what has been said about me on their forum, and to give my opinion.
Why do they allow people to attack me personally? |
14Bore | 27 Jun 2020 6:02 p.m. PST |
They shouldn't Gwen, but obviously if it helps their cause they let it go on. Try to ignore it. |
ecaminis | 27 Jun 2020 6:14 p.m. PST |
Gotta agree with 14Bore. Take the high road and ignore them. |
Basha Felika | 27 Jun 2020 6:27 p.m. PST |
Not worth even reacting to a nobody calling you ‘immature'. That's hardly insulting or -phobic in any way Got to be quite resilient in any consumer-facing role in the age of social media |
Editor Gwen | 27 Jun 2020 6:30 p.m. PST |
The letter came from me. Why do they think I can't write in English? |
Max Schnell | 27 Jun 2020 6:42 p.m. PST |
Gwen, I think you do a wonderful job. Thank you. |
Editor Gwen | 27 Jun 2020 7:02 p.m. PST |
Of course not, I am not a victim. Bill is a great boss because he knows I need his help in fighting for my rights. All of us who work for TMP are united and cooperate with each other for our company's success. Do these people speak a second language? I am proud of my English skills. Of course, when I am mad, my English is not as good. |
Editor Gwen | 27 Jun 2020 7:08 p.m. PST |
Thank you, everyone, for all your kind words. I appreciate it so much! |
Editor Gwen | 27 Jun 2020 7:32 p.m. PST |
Why do I need to give you any documents? It is none of your business. The TMP advertisers and members know that I work here. Ask them. |
Dentatus | 27 Jun 2020 7:35 p.m. PST |
This whole thing is so… Middle School. |
Editor Gwen | 27 Jun 2020 7:58 p.m. PST |
TMP staffers are not s. I am not a . I work as an Editor, and it is legal work so I can support my family. You think I am not the same as before? Maybe in your eyes bcoz people looks changes, and maybe you think I am prettier now. Seriously, this is still me, the Gwen you see before, and maybe you think my looks changes bcoz of my hair color. And it was six years ago when you first started attacking me. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 27 Jun 2020 8:25 p.m. PST |
There's nothing that Thaddeus can't twist into something evil. When he claims that I'm not a kind-hearted man who hires gay people, but secretly I creep around online deceiving innocent victims, a wonderful young lady comes forward to give me a really nice defense. So what does Thaddeus think? It's too detailed, it's suspicious, it must really be all about the sex. Then he takes it even further in some stupid fantasy when he thinks Editor Gwen is long gone and replaced – like Body Snatchers? Or that I'm pretending to be all of my employees? (real tin hat time) And when he sees people rushing to my defense, to him, it has to be suspicious! So, apparently, he scopes out their Facebook pages. Cyberstalking again, that's why he got kicked off TMP in the first place! And he concludes they're looking for Mr. Right. Well, isn't that what any young lady wants? And then we're back to his nonsense about me running some matchmaking service, when he's just been told by witnesses who were there that he's full of it! And this guy is STILL on the TFL forum, they haven't banned him. |
Editor Gwen | 27 Jun 2020 9:03 p.m. PST |
First, I want to say 'thank you', because even if Too Fat Lardies called me "vile and offensive," at least they also told their fans to stop the attacks on gay people. It also sounds like he wants to sue me just for saying what I feel. I am a poor person in a poor country. What does he think he can take from me? But I am afraid maybe he will ruin our company and the opportunities it has provided for so many Filipinas. Whatever else he says doesn't affect me because I know I didn't do anything wrong. When you think I have mistakes, that is your opinion, but always remember that no one is perfect and we always commit mistakes and that is part of life. There is more I could post about what those people said about me on that forum, but this is already a lot. To anyone who says I am slow in English, yes I am, but that doesn't change me. I am trying the best that I can to improve in writing in English. God bless TMP! |
Tony S | 28 Jun 2020 6:24 a.m. PST |
Too Fat Lardies called me "vile and offensive," No, I believe they were referring to the perceived accusation that TFL was actually encouraging or condoning such behaviour. Which is indeed a vile and offensive accusation, if it were to be made. We can certainly all agree on that. There's nothing that Thaddeus can't twist into something evil. And that's the person that first suggested that news should only be allowed from advertisers. You implemented his idea Bill. I may be flogging a dead horse here, but please reread your own statement I quoted – could that reasoning not be applied to his original post months ago that suggested your new policy? Even Coke dropped "New Coke" when they realized it wasn't working quite so well as they had hoped. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 28 Jun 2020 7:37 a.m. PST |
TFL was actually encouraging or condoning such behaviour. Not removing such posts from their forum would constitute condoning, wouldn't it? Even Coke dropped "New Coke" when they realized it wasn't working quite so well as they had hoped. Seems inappropriate to go off on a tangent, when we're discussing homophobia and these terrible attacks on my staffers. |
Legion 4 | 28 Jun 2020 8:07 a.m. PST |
There's nothing that Thaddeus can't twist into something evil. You said his/it's name ?!?! Oh Noooo !!!! But yes your description is valid AFAIK … Well that is what I was told … |
Sundance | 28 Jun 2020 12:30 p.m. PST |
All this proves is that TFL and their supporters have some serious mental health issues. |
etotheipi | 28 Jun 2020 12:47 p.m. PST |
Editor Gwen, I'm confused. Do you actually not exist or are you a real person that Bill sexually exploits? Perhaps I lack the strength of cognitive dissonance required to believe you are both at the same time. |
Foulksy | 28 Jun 2020 12:57 p.m. PST |
Are you an agent provocateur etotheipi? |
Basha Felika | 28 Jun 2020 1:22 p.m. PST |
Not helpful, etotheipi, might wish to remove that post? |
Old Peculiar | 28 Jun 2020 1:52 p.m. PST |
Really? the standard of entries on this issue, from both sides is scraping the scum from the barrel. I am not taking sides of making a judgement, as I think the issue has been inflated to a stupid degree. All the harassing and bigotted comments on both groups should have been immediately delted and further commentary blocked. I think the whole sordid debate has dragged the hobby into disrepute. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 28 Jun 2020 2:12 p.m. PST |
Let me translate. etotheipi is saying that the bad people are saying BOTH that Editor Gwen doesn't exist AND that she's a victim. Logic problem there. the standard of entries on this issue, from both sides is scraping the scum from the barrel. Please use the Complaint button on anything said which you believe is in error. Frankly, I think Editor Gwen has been polite and calm. All the harassing and bigotted comments on both groups should have been immediately delted and further commentary blocked. Tell me where "our" side has made any such comments, and if it is in my power, I will remove them. I think the whole sordid debate has dragged the hobby into disrepute. False equivalency again. Don't blame the victim. Let the victim speak. |
Old Peculiar | 29 Jun 2020 2:51 a.m. PST |
. You have deliberately stirred this up, perhaps with the mistaken opinion that you are carrying some great crusading banner. If you cannot see the bigotry that has been displayed in some of the postings then you really need help. Both sides of this seem to feel they are victims in the exchange, and so it is a race to the bottom, each claiming to be more of a victim than the other, and the righteousness of their cause. The whole thing has become like an immature and pathetic playground argument. And I have said similar things on the UK groups that have dived into this demeaning fracas. Your response to my posting simply indicates that you have lost any sense of decorum, or of perspective over this, it is all or nothing with you! |
Editor in Chief Bill | 29 Jun 2020 6:05 a.m. PST |
How did Editor Gwen stir anything up, Old Peculiar? Where did she display any bigotry at all? Your comment makes no sense to me. |