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Paskal Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 12:22 a.m. PST

Hello all,

Where to find uniformological documentation on the Bavarian army in 1866?

Stay safe,


NapStein21 Jun 2020 12:48 a.m. PST

A newer source is the catalogue of the exhibition in the army museum in Ingolstadt covering the 1866 war – it ist downloadable at PDF link

And if you want to see some images, I started to add the "Zigarettenbilder" to my gallery at link – some more to follow.

Greetings from Berlin
Markus Stein

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 1:16 a.m. PST

Thank you and bravo Napoléonstein for your catalog of the exhibition in the army museum in Ingolstadt covering the 1866 war, but as it is German …

But again Bravo for your two books on the war of 1870-1871, I received it, but I still did not have time to open it, I prefer to see them with a rested head, because they are too beautiful, it is not the right period.

What do you think of Michael Solka's illustrated book by Darko Pavlovic on Prussia's Allies in 1870-71 (Osprey M.A.A – N ° 422)?

There are errors ?

I know the French army of the second empire so very well that now I focus on the Germans because I know too little, but already my favorites are those of the four southern German states …

Unfortunately by far the Saxons and the Baden in 1870 resemble Prussians, that's why 1866 is interesting.

Where to find in color representations of the Bavarian Flag of 1st / 5th regiment, 1st / 13th regiment and Standard pattern flags of the Bavarian Cuirassier regiments in 1870?

And that ?

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 1:42 a.m. PST

Northstar will be releasing some 28mm in the Fall.

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 2:09 a.m. PST

Yes, but not from southern German states!

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 9:25 a.m. PST

Yes Northstar already has 1866 bavarians in soft cap ,along w/austrian mtd high command ..will be released in fall ,when are back at full capacity.I have seen themm very nice.

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2020 10:29 p.m. PST

The Bavarians also had soft cap in 1866?

I thought it was only the Saxons who wore soft caps in 1866?

I thought the Bavarians were already wearing their famous crested helmets?

bruntonboy22 Jun 2020 2:11 a.m. PST

The Bavarian army had been wearing a crested helmet from 1805 onwards but in the 1866 campaign their troops wore the undress soft cap instead. Presumably to make them look less Prussian.

Mollinary22 Jun 2020 3:11 a.m. PST

In 1866 Baden, Bavaria, both Hesses, Saxony and Wurttemberg all wore some variety of soft cap.

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2020 3:56 a.m. PST

Very interesting your information and what other differences with 1870 – 71 in equipment and uniforms?

Mollinary23 Jun 2020 4:44 a.m. PST

Paskal, they are too numerous to mention on a TMP post, as I have said before the Nigel Smith booklet on uniforms of 1866 covers all these states. The Sturm Cigarette card series on Deutschland Uniformen 1864-71 covers many of them, but they are properly synthesised in Smith. The Osprey on Prussian Allies of 1870-71 gives you a reasonable account of what was worn in 1870 to compare them with. Regarding your question of colour illustrations of the Cuirassier standards and the two unique infantry Leibfahnen, they are all contained in another Verlag Militaria book, produced in cooperation with the Ingolstadt museum, called Bayerische Fahnen by Juergen Kraus, sadly only available in German.

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2020 9:51 p.m. PST

Yes the figures may not be interchangeable …

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