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nnascati Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 11:59 a.m. PST

All,
I am stumped as to what figures could be used to represent the Picts as the exist in the Hyborean age. Any ideas?

Prince Rupert of the Rhine17 Jun 2020 12:09 p.m. PST

What scale/size? I like Copplestone's 15mm ones

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 12:33 p.m. PST

Sorry, 28mm

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian17 Jun 2020 12:39 p.m. PST

Something from the Celtos range? link

Prince Rupert of the Rhine17 Jun 2020 1:06 p.m. PST

Maybe these guys from Lucid eyes savage core range?

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 1:08 p.m. PST

The Lucid Eye figs are what I was thinking about.

Robert Burke17 Jun 2020 2:44 p.m. PST

IIRC, the original Picts in the Conan stories were tall and leaned-limb. It's in the later stories they are squat and somewhat "dwarfish" in appearance, except for the race of kings who had kept their bloodlines pure.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 2:50 p.m. PST

I was thinking Neanderthals.

Andoreth17 Jun 2020 3:51 p.m. PST

I was thinking pre-Columbian native Americans, say Pulp Flint and Feather,

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 3:55 p.m. PST

Hyborean Age Picts are more like seriously wild Irish. "A white race, though swarthy" Howard says at one point--with feathers, spears and bows. Pre-Columbian woodland Indians ought to about get you there.

As Robert Burke says, it's the Roman Era Picts of the Bran Mac Morn stories who are "stunted giants" and even there Bran and his fellow chieftains are of the old form.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 3:59 p.m. PST

Okay, thanks for the responses guys. You have helped a lot.

The Bibliophile17 Jun 2020 4:05 p.m. PST

Did you see my post in your other thread about my "Beyond the Black River" game?

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 4:07 p.m. PST

These? link

Not sure bibliophile.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 6:13 p.m. PST

REH stated that they were based on Native Americans and, from their description, they are pre-contact Indians.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 6:14 p.m. PST

Thanks 79th

JimSelzer17 Jun 2020 6:17 p.m. PST

Royal Armies of the Hyborian Age suggested woodland Indian no muskets of course

ps I agree with the 2 Roberts the "squat" Picts are from a later timeline in REH world history

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 6:27 p.m. PST

I saw the CP Models Skraelings, I guess they would fit the bill.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 7:03 p.m. PST

I have thought about using those Skraelings as well.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2020 7:19 p.m. PST

As long as they fit with the rest of my figures, all of which are from Reaper.

The Bibliophile17 Jun 2020 7:30 p.m. PST

On your post asking about possible rules to use, I pointed you to my blog post regarding a bunch of homebrew material I recently released for free download on my blog related to the adaptation of "Beyond the Black River" I've been running at conventions for the last couple of years. Lots of Picts in the scenarios…

Sellswords & Spellslingers by Andrea Sfiligoi (the maker of Songs of Blades and Heroes) is by far my favorite set of skirmish-level miniatures rules. It's designed for solo/co-op play, but I've run it as a GM vs. players at a few conventions, too.

And you're in luck, because not only did I design a two-part adaptation of the Conan story "Beyond the Black River" specifically for these rules, but I just recently released for free on my blog all of the custom cards and scenario notes I made, too.

Here's the link to the blog post where you can find the link to download all of the files:
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nnascati Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2020 4:28 a.m. PST

Ah, okay. So what did you use for Picts?

The Bibliophile18 Jun 2020 4:06 p.m. PST

A combination of the Picts from the Conan board game for the "brutes" (a designation in Sellswords & Spellslingers for a tougher version of a common foe like orcs, etc.) and skraeling miniatures from the game Saga. As others have pointed out, Howard's Picts had more in common with Native American tribes than those of the British isles.

I'll one last time make the pitch for Sellswords & Spellsingers as the rules to go with, especially if you're playing solo or co-op.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2020 4:31 p.m. PST

I'm tempted, but what makes you prefer Sellswords and Spellslingers to Song of Blades and Heroes?
As far as Skraelings go, I may just use my Lucid Eye Cro-Magnon for the time being.

The Bibliophile18 Jun 2020 9:05 p.m. PST

Don't get me wrong, I've played a lot of "Advanced Songs of Blades and Heroes." In fact it was the first miniatures game I played when I got into the hobby a few years ago. "Sellswords an Spellslingers" is by the same designer as Songs o Blades and Heroes (Andrea Sfiligoi), and one of the things I like about it is that it is intentionally built for solo/co-op play. It's an unpredictable game that very much keeps you on your toes the entire time, and the AI doesn't feel as scripted and boring as other games in the same category ("Rangers of Shadow Deep," which I found dull, frankly).

Here's a blog post in which I describe my club's first game of "Sellswords & Spellslingers" in some detail: link

And here's a video we recorded after finishing a game of "Rangers of Shadow Deep" in which we compare it to "Selllswords & Spellslingers": youtu.be/-NJ5uF72OQA

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nnascati Supporting Member of TMP19 Jun 2020 6:48 a.m. PST

You may have sold me.

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