"Cold War gone hot 50's style" Topic
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ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 16 Jun 2020 10:31 a.m. PST |
Long fancied doing a 50's Cold War gone hot project after playing a bit too much Win MBT. The mix of WWII and newer post-war designs appeals. But what scale? WWII and even stuff that arrived too late to see action is readily available in any scale. The difference between specific production variants isn't going to be that noticeable at the smaller scales. But I've not come across much in the way BTR-152 variants like the BTR-152A or vehicles like the German HS30. Period specific infantry, at least for the Soviets, is also thin on the ground – obviously Korean war ranges can furnish some period US and UK forces. WWII can also furnish infantry of client equipped with surplus. Again less of a problem at smaller scales where differences are less apparent. What scale does anyone think would give the best coverage for the early to mid 50's? Personally I'd like to avoid bigger than 15mm and using Shapeways for budgetary reasons. |
Saber6 | 16 Jun 2020 11:35 a.m. PST |
6 or 15mm are your best choices. The danger of 6mm is 'well, 10 more won't hurt' Between Old Glory Command Decision (Skytrex), QRF and Quality Castings most bases are covered in 15mm. I'm sure I'm missing a couple more makers |
GROSSMAN | 16 Jun 2020 11:46 a.m. PST |
Split the difference go 10mm. |
Thresher01 | 16 Jun 2020 12:21 p.m. PST |
1/144th or 1/300th would be my go-to scales, though the larger 1/100th is nice for smaller skirmishes, and the big armored vehicles are very nice to look at. |
Legion 4 | 16 Jun 2020 4:03 p.m. PST |
Yes, for Co Tm, Bn TF, Bde BG, 6mm is the best IMO … |
Apache 6 | 16 Jun 2020 4:50 p.m. PST |
There are a lot of ROCO HO scale (1/87) vehicles for the German Army for that period. The HS30 is fairly common in ROCO vehicles. |
Lucius | 16 Jun 2020 6:40 p.m. PST |
1/144 is a great scale, with new plastics from Victrix launching now. Great detail, and more manuver space than 15mm. |
ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 17 Jun 2020 8:44 a.m. PST |
I already have small collection of 1:144th WWII stuff so that would be my preferred option – but unless I've missed something, there isn't much between WWII stuff and 70-90s modern stuff without resorting to Shapeways for the hard to find stuff? Some of the prices are truly nuts. Looking forward to the later waves of the Victrix stuff since I've already got enough tanks – though their initial release is very nice looking. But not that much cheaper per unit than say a metal miniature from Arrowhead. 6mm is the obvious scale, and well aware of the its cheap so, but I was surprised how much I couldn't actually get, basically if it wasn't in Korea or the AIWs it doesn't get made. 15mm (or 1:87) would be okay, but cost and storage space could be problematic since most of the later is occupied by my 15mm sci-fi collection… |
ODGW Kenny | 17 Jun 2020 9:19 a.m. PST |
Check out Butlers Printed Models. They can do 1/144 stuff and have a nice selection of 50 to 70 vehicles. YMMV |
UshCha | 17 Jun 2020 11:29 a.m. PST |
I would suggest 1/144 its smaller than 15mm by more than you might think when you put models from both scales side by side. Personally 6mm too small for me. The tanks are OK but the critical smaller stuff, "jeeps", small armored cars etc. are too small for me to work with at 1:1. In the end I suggest you get samples at all 3 scales of the smallest vehicle you would want to use, then decide. This is what we did, including the now almost defunct 10mm (replaced by 12mm which is a poor version of 1/144). There is a growing US N gauge(1/160 to 1/156) which are a bit smaller than 1/144 when you compare side by side. Probably not so much in N gauge but the scenery is a bit more prolific if you are that way inclined. I tend to use a bit of artistic license on scenery. That reduces, but by no means eliminates the figure to ground scale issues. Again an issue that went against 6mm for us, is that with careful design you can get troops down a narrow road with hoses close to each other in 1/144; we considered it impractical to do so at 6mm, but it is again what you want and what you consider too much Faff. |
ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 20 Jun 2020 10:20 a.m. PST |
Will almost certainly go 1:144. Suddenly had a moment of inspiration as I was lying in bed just before going to sleep the other night. Revell make a set with HS-30s and M48s in! Next morning – oh yes that would be one they discontinued! Still it appears, having taken another look, Minifigs do an HS-30 – pictures upside down but they do one plus the M16 MGMC and M3 with mortar I'd need for early Bundeswehr – which will also come in handy for my WII Americans. Already have the M3 and a couple of M8's in 1:144. I'm also thinking at 1:144 subtleties between early and later Cold War uniforms and weapons won't be discernible – like AK-47 versus AK-74. And there are still a few modern 1:144 WTM vehicles sloshing around on eBay, but I think they are mostly too recent. |
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