"Disputed Barricades" Topic
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Au pas de Charge | 01 May 2020 8:30 a.m. PST |
For ACW and AWI wargaming, it seems that man made obstacles are integral. There also seems to be a fair variety of each type. For instance, there seems to be low and high rail fences both straight and zigzagged, low and high stone walls both for fields and surrounding buildings, gabion defenses, log revetments, sandbag defenses, redoubts, fleches, gun emplacements, chevaux de frises, loopholed wall, walls with firing steps, picket fences. How do you decide which ones are important and in what style?
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John the Greater | 01 May 2020 9:27 a.m. PST |
Fences varied by region, so that is your first choice. Serpentine slit rails were almost everywhere in Dixie. Post fences in Pennsylvania. Both found in Maryland. Stone walls were found in rocky places like western Virginia or Pennsylvania but never in Louisiana. Fortunately there are a wealth of photos to help out. As for the field fortifications, both sides went to the same school so there is no difference between the sides. Just remember that the more time they had to build them, the more elaborate the fortifications. |
ScottWashburn | 02 May 2020 4:33 a.m. PST |
Wooden fences of any type would not provide any significant cover, but could be an obstacle to movement and rob the impetus from a charge. Stone walls would provide cover, but unless uncommonly high would not inhibit movement very much. As John notes, field fortifications could range from minimal to virtually impregnable depending on how much effort was put into them. |
historygamer | 02 May 2020 5:25 a.m. PST |
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historygamer | 02 May 2020 6:21 a.m. PST |
There are certainly similarities. Snake rail fences were common to both periods. Post and rail fences more so to ACW. The combination stone/wood fence more so to ACW too. The earthworks were different as 18th century works generally followed the Vauban patterns, with fewer hasty works seen on the battlefields. Still, the game terrain is similar enough to allow a good deal of crossover. |
Au pas de Charge | 02 May 2020 7:21 a.m. PST |
All good suggestions but I was more curious about what items and what specific sub types of those items gamers felt comfortable using in their games. |
138SquadronRAF | 02 May 2020 8:46 a.m. PST |
Sand bags? Sandbags are introduced in the late 18thC and were certainly used: link link link The Civil War was also still using the gabion and fascine
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historygamer | 02 May 2020 11:17 a.m. PST |
Interesting. I knew they weren't used in the AWI period. |
79thPA | 02 May 2020 12:12 p.m. PST |
Whatever I have in the terrain box. I'm not going to loose any sleep about fence styles. |
Au pas de Charge | 05 May 2020 11:10 p.m. PST |
Wait, i thought sandbags were invented during the revolutionary war? |
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