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Warspite130 Apr 2020 3:33 a.m. PST

When I first saw the trailers for the Roland Emmerich 'Midway' movie I was impressed by the CGI but a little worried that the story might be 'son of Pearl Harbor'. PH was, of course, the 2001 Michael Bay movie which put US fighters over Pearl Harbor during the attack (there were none), staged improbable dogfights in among the sinking ships and burning buildings and then put the fighter pilots into the seats of Doolittle's B-25s to raid Tokyo. All very wrong.

On Covid-19 lockdown shopping in Tesco [UK supermarket] yesterday I spotted Midway on DVD and thought: "Oh what the hell?" and bought it. I was not disappointed. Emmerich's approach to the subject is that of a dramatised documentary – it's almost 'Sink The Bismarck' but in colour. Two of the characters were given enough back story to explain who they were married-to but little time was wasted on back story and the majority of the film is at-sea and in-the-air.

Some of us may remember the previous Midway film from the 1970s (Charlton Heston, Robert Mitchum, Cliff Robertson, etc) and that now looks very pedestrian compared to Emmerich's film. The first film also bogged down in an improbable plot about Chuck's son dating a Japanese girl. We really didn't need it.

We open the new Midway movie with yet another a version of the Pearl Harbor attack – some of the Japanese fighters are a bit too low and close to the viewer but I will forgive Emmerich. The Arizona blows up and eventually sinks and we see the scale of the harbour-wide damage in ensuing scenes. We next get the US riposte – with the Doolittle raid on Tokyo – and the US pilots trying to escape into China. The Japanese attack on Midway is implied to be a response to the Doolittle raid but I recall Midway was always 'on the books' and the Japanese merely stepped it up.

I should point out that, like Tora, Tora, Tora, both sides are shown in detail and we DO get the Japanese viewpoint at key moments. I am not sure about the accuracy of the scene where Yamamoto catches Nagumo berating his staff at a wargame for 'cheating' and putting the American carriers at-sea and to the north east of the island, which is where they would be in real life, but it does pre-figure the plot. It also cleverly implies Japan's very real complacency. As the Japanese themselves said, later, they were suffering from 'victory disease' – they had won too much, too easily and just got careless.

We get a snatch of the Battle of Coral Sea and see Lexington sinking and Yorktown's deck damage but the epic 72-hour repair of the flight deck is cut and we next see amazed Enterprise crew looking to see Yorktown emerge from the mist at sea.

We do get famous film director John Ford on Midway Island (where he really was, making a documentary) and I would like to have seen a little more of him and the actual attack on the island, especially the bit where a Zero pilot allegedly flew along the runway UPSIDE DOWN at low altitude trying to draw US fire away from the incoming bombers. It was well witnessed by the Marines but is not in the movie.

The first US strike follows the established story and we get the US submarine attack which caused a Japanese destroyer to be left behind to pin the sub down and then race off after the fleet at high speed. The lost Dauntlesses see the destroyer below and follow it to where the main fleet really is. The attack is spectacular and my only criticism ss too much flak tracer and too many aircraft shot down in the dive-bombing. Most were lost to Zeros as the Japanese 25mm was slow-firing. The 25mm guns ARE shown firing slowly, but somehow they then manage to generate a blizzard of flak up in the air. Also strangely missing are any Wildcat fighters, I did not see one – either defending the US carriers or at Midway.

The Japanese counter-strike is a little skimped and we only see its effect and the final U.S. strike removes the last carrier, which is scuttled. We do get 'between decks' footage of the Japanese carriers, especially one where the hanger deck fuel ignites as the damage control officers are trying to flood it with CO2. The whole ship explodes. Also shown is the Japanese admiral and captain who refused to leave their burning carrier and who are torpedoed, by their own destroyer, to scuttle the crippled carrier.

The only puzzle for me was the whole 'AF' story was a little truncated. In truth the US knew that a mystery site 'AF' was going to be attacked from Japanese signal intercepts but did not know where it was. On a hunch the US sent a secure message to Midway telling the island to broadcast a clear uncoded and insecure message that they were 'short of water'. The US then picked up a coded Japanese signal saying 'AF is short of water' which set the scene for the ambush. The film seems to imply the water shortage signal was sent accidentally and I am wondering if a longer and more accurate version will turn up in a director's cut of Midway.

The most improbable scene – where a US rear gunner jumps into the back seat of a parked aeroplane, shoots down a twin-engined bomber and then has his aircraft cut in two by the wing of the bomber as it slices across the deck is TRUE! It actually happened, as shown.

Overall the tone of the film cut out a lot of the posturing and machismo that we get in some US war films and I would be tempted to say it was almost British in the way it was produced. I mean that as a compliment!
On first viewing I would give Midway an 8.5 out of 10 for acting, CGI special effects, accuracy, tone, the whole number. On further viewing I might push that .5 either way. If you have not seen it yet, Midway is worth the effort and not the usual tub-thumping dross we have come to expect. I was very pleasantly surprised.

Barry

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP30 Apr 2020 5:01 a.m. PST

Great review: thanks.

I thought 'Tora, Tora, Tora' slightly the better movie in everything but the visual elements but 'Midway' comes within a whisker.

codiver30 Apr 2020 5:42 a.m. PST

A couple of things I would mention… First, the raid on the Marshall islands that has the seemingly now required in all aviation movies chase through the mountains/canyon scene. This when the highest point on Kwaj is something like 13 feet.

Certainly agree with your comment on the missing Wildcats.

My biggest disagreement might be WRT the acting comment. True Woody Harrelson was surprisingly good as Nimitz and Dennis Quaid was good as Halsey. My major issue is with Ed Skrein's portrayal of Dick Best. Now, it's true that Dick Best was from New Jersey, and I have to say I never met the man, and AFAIK there are no videos on YouTube of him, so take this with a grain of salt. But in the years before and immediately after WWII, the Naval Academy was very much an elite school. This, combined with the military's dislike of strong accents due to the worry of causing confusion in combat, I find it difficult to believe, and found it very off putting, the film had Dick Best talking like a rejected extra from Jersey Shore.

Oh, and don't get me started about the BS Dick Best SBD landing maneuver…

BillyNM30 Apr 2020 6:07 a.m. PST

In general I was surprisingly impressed with the film although I think the focus on the main characters was over-played. The CGI was fun – no other way you're going to see all this hardware but… while ships, planes, etc. were understandably compressed to make it more of a visual spectacle I really found the hero's antics cringe-worthy. On two occasions he dives so low to ensure he hits the target that in one case he scrapes his bomb release gear on the flight deck of the carrier he is dive bombing and on the other he just clips the sea as he pulls out! Please…

Kevin C30 Apr 2020 7:52 a.m. PST

I also like the fairly actual depiction of John Ford's filming of the battle. That was a neat addition. One other side note, having lived on Midway as a little boy (my dad was a Seabee stationed on Midway in the early 70s), when the 1970s version of Midway came out in theaters the entire family went to watch the movie to see if there would be any footage from the island. While we were disappointed that they didn't actually film any of the movie on Midway, there was one scene in the 70s version where a tower is blown up. The tower was actually one in California near where my brothers played when they were young. So while I didn't get to see any familiar scenes of Midway, I did get to watch my brothers' disappointment as they witnessed the destruction of an object that held such fond memories for them.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Apr 2020 8:02 a.m. PST

I was rather disappointed with the film. The visuals are great, but I was put off by the various errors noted above. I'll also mention the ridiculous scene with Dick Best bombing the last Japanese carrier where he pulls out of his dive literally ten feet above the carrier's flight deck before releasing his bomb. If he'd done that the bomb would have just slid off the front of the flight deck and into the water.

But my main complaint was that they tried to cram just too much into the movie and had to leave out critical aspects of the battle. Like the fact that even though the Americans knew the Japanese plans and had their ships in the right position that did not automatically let them know exactly where the Japanese ships were to attack. The search to find the Japanese ships was a critical part of the battle and was actually much better handled by the 1970 film.

Warspite130 Apr 2020 11:38 a.m. PST

@Billy NM:
Yes I must agree with you about how low the last SBD attack went. He was in severe danger of being destroyed by his own bomb apart from anything else.

B

Thresher0130 Apr 2020 1:54 p.m. PST

Thanks for the reviews.

A pity about the cartoonish details of some things, and omissions of others.

Someone needs to ride herd on the studios/directors to ensure this sort of crap doesn't happen, so they can produce a better product.

Afterall, it's not X-Men Midway, it's just Midway.

mjkerner30 Apr 2020 5:47 p.m. PST

"Afterall, it's not X-Men Midway, it's just Midway." Man, there's a signature line if I ever saw one, lol!

Dynaman878930 Apr 2020 7:00 p.m. PST

I had no complaints with the movie. Considering the director I was expecting far worse and it was actually very good. The only thing I wish is that there was a wider scope, the Yorktown doesn't get nearly the mention she is due since there is such a tight focus on the main characters. Just one example – others have been brought up already.

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2020 2:51 a.m. PST

"the 2001 Michael Bay movie which put US fighters over Pearl Harbor during the attack (there were none)"

Not to defend that horrible movie, but…
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rustymusket01 May 2020 7:03 a.m. PST

I loved the movie! It reminded me of the "good old days" of war movies. Saturdays and Sundays as a kid/teenager watching old b/w WWII movies. A little love interest but mostly about the war. I have hinted strongly that I would love to receive a copy for Father's Day by saying "I would love to receive a copy for Father's Day! The only thing I would have enjoyed more was if more details were added in, as Warspite1 mentioned. Maybe the director's cut will fill in some of it, at least.

Warspite102 May 2020 11:51 a.m. PST

@Dn Jackson:
I am aware that some US aircraft got airborne and even scored kills but US survivors from the harbour area were adamant that they saw no friendly aircraft during the attacks.

Tora, Tora, Tora, also showed USAAF P-40s getting airborne but does not show them over the harbour area.

As with the loss of HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse just a few days later, the air support only arrived later – and too late.

B

Vidgrip06 May 2020 6:00 a.m. PST

I like the 70's version better. The CGI of the new movie made many things possible, but they threw it all away by pushing the reality dial to 11 on the assumption that people would not find 10 exciting enough. The first drive bombing scenes were amazing. The last one had me laughing out loud in the theater. As with many other films, 30 seconds of editing could have made a tremendous difference. The deeper flaw was trying to tell the entire story of WWII in the Pacific rather than focusing on the Battle of Midway itself.

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