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Tango0106 Apr 2020 10:25 p.m. PST

"The Chi-Ha Short Gun is a medium fire support tank designed by Japan near the end of the war. Equipped with an uncharacteristically large (for Japanese tanks) 120 mm ship cannon, this ‘shorty' is sure to amaze you with its ‘naval' caliber!

The Chi-Ha Short Gun is a medium fire support tank designed by Japan by the end of World War II. Land-based ground forces required a fire-support tank to fight against long-term fortifications and firing positions, and the Type 2 Ho-I developed in 1942 partially fulfilled this demand. Nonetheless, in the opinion of several military figures, its 75 mm howitzer was insufficiently powerful on the battlefield, so Japanese tank designers went on to try multiple times to create a tank with more solid armament. The result of one such attempt was the Chi-Ha Kai 12 cm Short Gun…"

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Tango0107 Apr 2020 12:20 p.m. PST

Are there any model in 1/72?…

Thanks in advance for your guidance.

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2020 2:26 p.m. PST

Well I have to say I thought this was a fictional AFV created for a computer game. But Wiki produced a picture and tells us that a dozen were built, but not used. That gun does look so weird, with that flared muzzle…it does look more like a Warhammer vehicle for Space marines or some such

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dBerczerk07 Apr 2020 3:34 p.m. PST

As I recall, built by the Imperial Japanese Navy, intended for the defense of naval installations on the Home Islands in the expectation of the final Allied invasion of Japan. Never deployed beyond the Home Islands -- captured intact following the capitulation of all Japanese armed forces.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2020 10:58 a.m. PST

A number of better armed and armored Japanese AFVs were built towards the end of the war. Never in large numbers and were going to be used for home island defense. IMO they could still be bested by an M4.

Tango0108 Apr 2020 1:06 p.m. PST

It could be a match for the Sherman….


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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2020 3:50 p.m. PST

Maybe … but generally our Tankers had more experience and better trained than theirs. I don't think any Japanese AFV ever had fired at or K0'd an US M4 ? Or probably any other Allied AFV ?

Murvihill09 Apr 2020 4:57 a.m. PST

I expect this was a low velocity gun and the tank probably carried few rounds.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP09 Apr 2020 9:27 a.m. PST

Yes, based on the size of the main gun and barrel length.

Levi the Ox09 Apr 2020 10:05 a.m. PST

Both sides operated tanks against each other throughout the war, both on the islands and in the China-Burma-India theater. Here's a link to an article about heavy fighting on Luzon in '45: link

Is it a "match" for the Sherman? It could certainly knock one out, if that's what you mean. Even the 47mm Chi-Ha could do that (albeit with difficulty). It's a fire-support tank, though, it's main role would be hitting entrenched infantry and weapons positions.

Tango0109 Apr 2020 12:17 p.m. PST

Thanks!.

Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2020 9:30 a.m. PST

Yes, thanks Levi, I forgot about Luzon. And I know of the UK using M3s Grants, etc., in the CBI. Even the USMC had a few M3 Stuarts at Guadalcanal. As did the Japanese have about a Bn of tanks, IIRC Type 94, 95s and 97s (?). old fart

As you pointed out IJFs' tanks were very much used as Infantry support. They worked well against the Chinese Forces in China. As the Chinese had few AFVs. In many cases the Japanese were going against poorly trained or "peasant" Infantry. With limited heavy weapons at best. Any AFV would be a "monster" in that case.


But it was rare that Allied AFVs met IJFs' AFVs. Of course the terrain generally in the PTO was a "bit" different than in the ETO.

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