"Best triad for Blue céleste foncé" Topic

The carabiniers campaign dress for the 100 days for troopers seems most likely to be Blue céleste foncé.
Any advice on the best acrylic triad for this?

Regards

Paul Dawson's research shows there were no blue celestes on the books only white habites so concludes they never wore the blue undress, indeed argues that it never existed.

Triad?
Don't think the Chinese were involved that far back?!

Dark skyblue? Unlikely.
Unless the restoration had time to make them new, I'd bet only Empire Blue fracs or surtout could have been worn as alternate dress to the white.
However not my area of research…
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@BillyNM,SHaT19984

Don`t know if you can read french, but in this link you find some interesting finds/vieuws on the blue campaign dress

PDF link

Courtesy of von Winterfeldt and NapStein

Its interesting to see all the different opinions on a topic like this. But the more info and points of view we can collect, the more informed we can decide which color we going to use. Thats why this is a great forum.
Regards

>>Don`t know if you can read french,

I still have no understanding of the use of the word 'triad'? 3 what? One colour…
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Like in 3 layers,ala Foundry. Base coat, middle tone and highlight.
So if the aim is to paint something looking like blue celeste fonce,you need a darker base colour, a middle tone most likely to the desired color and a lighter colour for the highlights. Hense the question to which 3 colors would be best suited.

V. Winterfeldt, is there a good quality image online of the Faber de Faur picture of French cavalry on small horses in a Russia in 1812? This seems to be the main evidence cited for the blue coats but I can't tell if the figure is a carabiner or a Westphalian cuirassier.

>>Like in 3 layers,ala Foundry. Base coat, middle tone and highlight.

Hahhah, I get it. A sucker for retail therapy I guess and modeller-angst.

So I can't help at all.
Lead/ metal figures sure need a solid sealed base coat. Especially when going to apply acrylics. So…

I use ultra thinned Humbrol Matt black (turpentine wash really). Left for 24 hrs to dry and harden (usually). Bright sunshine outdoors can be used in under two hours.

- Then base colour is uniform colours.
- For highlights add one drop of white, or 'tan' if less colour shift desired, to base colour.
- Dry brush appropriate visibly facing (ie upper surface) areas.
- Job done.
- Where necessary, lack of figure detail etc, or bad paint seams (shoulder belts), maybe I'll stroke in a single dark/ black colour line again (belt/ culottes edging).
- Job done.

The perjorative 'skyblue' looking French models in habits promoted by sales greedy manfrs, are, IMHO, just a joke. They worked out you can sell more models to suckers if you highlight the detail with paler colours than plain lead colour photos.

Funny no-one paints the FFL in desert garb with 'pale' habits/ vestes. Except of course those that actually were SkyBl.

XXX- how does 1812 uniform have anything to do with 1815?
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Faber du Fauer shows a carabinier – red crested helmet, also he shows an attack by carabiniers at plate 78 – in front of Borosk, 26th of October 1812, also blue tunics.

I recommend to buy

Christian Wilhelm von Faber du Faur

Der Russlandfeldzug Napoleons 1812

issued by the

Bayerisches Armeemuseum Ingolstadt

This book shows the original paintings of Faber du Faur according to which the plates were engraved and show much better colours than the later engravings, and also sometimes different detail, it is a good value for money, not that expensive

@von Winterfeldt,

Looks like I have to wait for the Bayerisches Armeemuseum to open before I can get a copy of Christian Wilhelm von Faber du Faur his book Der Russlandfeldzug Napoleons 1812. Might be tempted to drive buy on the way during holidays, if we are allowed back outside.

Regards

I am sure you can order it online – otherwise of course it is worthwhile a visit and you can also check into the Redoubt Wrede just across the Danube in walking distance for the WWI museum.