Stew art | 18 Mar 2020 3:05 p.m. PST |
What do you all think of the Warlord Games plastic figures for the AWI? I know they're originally from Wargames Factory which have been very hit or miss in terms of quality. I know that I'll be starting an AWI force for use with Muskets and Tomahawks II (if my books ever get here..) so I'm looking around at figures. I really just want generic guys to start with and don't really need to worry about if they have the right hat or not. -Stew |
jawjatek | 18 Mar 2020 3:50 p.m. PST |
I find the firing/loading poses frustrating, trying to glue both arms to the body at the same time so they line up properly. But I do like the way they look when they are on the table. |
79thPA | 18 Mar 2020 4:46 p.m. PST |
I thought they were more trouble than they were worth to assemble. Some people like the model building; I do not. |
Red3584 | 18 Mar 2020 4:51 p.m. PST |
Initially I found the arms quite tricky but as long as you are quite methodical about it and match up the right pairs (they are all coded) then it becomes pretty straightforward and the figures are really nice to paint. |
Delbruck | 18 Mar 2020 5:53 p.m. PST |
After doing the Perry plastic AWI, the Warlord Games boxes are disappointing. |
FABET01 | 18 Mar 2020 5:58 p.m. PST |
Very tempted by the Liberty or Death box set, but I look at the figs and get turned off. They somehow seem way to weedy. |
Ferd45231 | 18 Mar 2020 7:32 p.m. PST |
I disliked the separate stands for the Wargames Factory stuff; but the variety of poses is great. Basing them on wood bases to match up more closely with my Perry plastics was was a pain. But I was able to create a nice looking unit of Butler's rangers with the Wargames stuff. So it is a wash. What frustration level are you williing to deal with. I should run for office. H |
Jeffers | 19 Mar 2020 1:24 a.m. PST |
Stew My adventures with Warlord are in here: battle77.blogspot.com Bottom line is the militia are cheap, relatively easy to assemble and look good after a quick paint job. I gave up on the rest because they tower over other ranges and are VERY fiddly to put together. Another problem is the poor arrangement of figures. A lot of space is wasted on spare weapons which just end up in the bin, when more bodies could have been included. Depends what you want out of figures, though. I lucked out on a Warlord sale so I assembled all the militia I need for around £80.00 GBP The same amount of Old Glory would set me back another £100.00 GBP+, which I'd rather spend on OG2 Continentals! |
Bill N | 19 Mar 2020 6:24 a.m. PST |
Now for something completely different. I like them. They form the backbone of my Continentals and the bulk of my militia, and I have no plans to replace either. With that bias warning, here's my assessment. 1. The Warlord/WF figures are robust. They are not robust in the same way certain metal figures are to more likelike figures. Rather they are like Arnold in the chess club robust. I have a legion that contains Warlord foot and F&D horse, but as a rule I try to keep Warlord figures in separate units. 2. Assembling Warlord figures is no different than assembling Perry plastics. I have had the occasional problem with an arm drooping just a little while the glue is setting, but I've had that same issue with certain Perrys. 3. On most Warlord figures you will find that the bayonet, water bottle and haversack seem to all be suspended from the same strap. Perry molds separate straps. You can look at this as Perry being more realistic or Warlord saving you from having to paint two other straps. From 3 feet away in a massed formation does it matter to you? 4. With the Continental, British and Hessian boxes there are 4 designed loading poses and a fifth one can easily be achieved. This may be great or it may be overkill. 5. Can someone point me to a source that says Continental light infantry carried both cartridge boxes and cartridge pouches? 6. British infantry are in warrant uniforms. This is why I went with Perrys for my British. 7. The Warlord figures have a huge potential for conversions by mixing and matching arms and heads from different sets. Perry arms and hats can sometimes be used. I also will use KMM heads with Warlords, but you do need to create necks. |
Stew art | 19 Mar 2020 2:24 p.m. PST |
Thanks everyone for the feed back, you've given me much to think to about. I admit I was hopping for more of a ringing endorsement, because the pics of the miniatures themselves on the website are a little off putting. I might end up going with the Perrys, but I kinda just want generic British in the classic warrant uniform in some variety of poses. Wargames Foundry looks like it might fit that. -Stew |
Skeptic | 19 Mar 2020 4:17 p.m. PST |
Would the Warlord/WF militia also work as Loyalist militia? |
Bill N | 20 Mar 2020 10:45 a.m. PST |
Depends on the theatre. Warlord militia contains about 50% figures in hunting shirts that would be OK for militia on either side in the southern campaign, and also militia recruited from western Pennsylvania and New York. If you are looking at tory militia recruited in New Jersey, southern New York or New England hunting shirts would not have been common. Warlord militia also contains a number of figures with rifles. Again OK even for tory militia in the southern campaign or western Pennsylvania, but not elsewhere. You could ignore that it is a rifle, or you could trim it and say it is a fowling piece brought from home. One common failing among AWI figure manufacturers is the failure to produce continentals and militia in sailors jackets. They were common in much of the colonies. A passable militia man in a sailors jacket can be made by combining the militia figure in a vest with arms from one of the figures in frock coats. I'd post pics of my Wargames Factory/Warlord figures, but they are all on my Facebook page. |