zebra77 | 04 Mar 2020 5:37 a.m. PST |
When the Wurttemberg army switched to the allies in 1813,was it involved in any actions or besieging fortresses , especially the liberation campaigns in Germany, France 1814 or the 1815 hundreds day campaign? |
Brechtel198 | 04 Mar 2020 8:11 a.m. PST |
The Wurttembergers retreated with the French from Leipzig in October 1813 and were then recalled home by their king. They left the Grande Armee at Fulda and were regarded as 'good comrades' by the French. At the battle of Montereau in France in 1814 the Crown Prince of Wurttemberg, holding a strong position on the north bank of the Seine, and after early initial success against Victor, was badly defeated by Napoleon, the 'highlight' of the action being Pajol's cavalry charge across the Seine bridge, through Montereau, and then over the Yonne bridge, drove the Crown Prince out of his position. Pajol was supported by Marshal Lefebvre leading the imperial staff and their escort in a charge along the Bray road. The Guard infantry advanced smartly and consolidated the gains by the horsemen. The allies lost 5,000 men and 15 guns and the French losses were about 2,500. The Crown Prince was supported by elements of Bianchi's corps. |
Brechtel198 | 04 Mar 2020 8:12 a.m. PST |
…especially the liberation campaigns in Germany… That's the Prussian version. What the 'liberation campaigns' actually were was the Prussian interest in 'liberating' as much of central and western Germany as they could get their hands on. |
Sparta | 04 Mar 2020 8:28 a.m. PST |
"That's the Prussian version. What the 'liberation campaigns' actually were was the Prussian interest in 'liberating' as much of central and western Germany as they could get their hands on." Good one – agree 100% As for 1814 – were the Wurtemburg troops not part of the flank attack at La Rothiere? |
Prince of Essling | 04 Mar 2020 10:42 a.m. PST |
The Wurttemberg Corps was at La Rothiere – 1 Feb 1814. A detachment under GL baron von Koch – Jager Regt Nr 9 (2 battalions); Lt Inf Regt Nr 10 (1 batn); 4th line Inf regt (2 battalions) stormed Sens – 11 Feb 1814. Battle of Montereau – 18 feb 1814(Austro-Wurttemberg Corps (11,000 w & 4,000 A) Battle of Arcis sur Aube – 20-21 March 1814 Cavalry & Infantry Division present but latter not engaged. Battle of Fere-Champenoise 25 March 1814 – Wurttemberg Corps formed part of the multinational force. Battle of Paris 30 March 1814 – only infantry from Corps engaged. Above taken from "The Greenhill Napoleonic Wars data Book" |
von Winterfeldt | 04 Mar 2020 1:58 p.m. PST |
it is not the Prussians version – the liberation wars were a German agenda – I cannot see any German state fighting for Boney in 1814. |
Brechtel198 | 04 Mar 2020 2:39 p.m. PST |
No, it was a Prussian 'agenda' based on the expansionist policies of the Prussian government. The idea of a German nation as a political entity did not become widespread until after 1815. And that idea did not become a reality until 1871. The central and western German states wanted to stay independent of both Prussia and Austria which is why the Confederation of the Rhine, under French protection, was formed in 1806. |
Whirlwind | 04 Mar 2020 2:50 p.m. PST |
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aardvark99 | 05 Mar 2020 5:49 a.m. PST |
The La Souffel 1815 link is interesting as it mentions 3 battalions of landwehr. Never seen any reference to Wurttemberg landwehr before, did they wear the litewka and caps or tunics/ shako ? |
Delort | 05 Mar 2020 8:35 a.m. PST |
@aardvark99 In Nafziger's 'The Wurtemberg Army 1792-1815' he writes, 'When the One Hundred Days began the Wurtemberg Army mobilised. A massive call-up of personnel did not occur. The only new formations aside from the standing line and guard formations were seven Land-Regiments, sometimes referred to as Landwehr…' There appear to have been numbered 1 to 7 and attached as follows: The 1st, 2nd and 3rd Land-Regiments to the Field Army Corps and the 4th, 5th and 6th Land-Regiments to the Army of Observation on the Rhine. The 7th Land-Regiment does not get mentioned, but presumably it remained in Wurtemberg with a number of other units. The Land-Regiments were disbanded at the end of the campaign. Unfortunately, he does not describe their uniform, but I'm sure someone will have something for you… |
Lilian | 05 Mar 2020 11:16 a.m. PST |
in the Plotho for 1815 1te 2te 3te Landwehr Regiments and a Landwehr artillery company, 3214 men, mentionned in the two-months blockage against the Place of Selestat the 3te Armee Corps command given to the Konprinz, with Schwartzenberg's Austrian Army and German states, had around half of Wurtembergers in one Infantry Division (10 Regts 20 battalions) one Cavalry Division (4 regts 16 squadrons) 5 batteries, a park and a pioneer company 17 231 men (13 531 infantrymen, 2185 cavalrymen, 1515 artillerymen) grand total 20 445 there was a German specialist who had gathered a lot of datas about the Wurtembergers to publish a book unfortunately he renounced at WHP for next april…(maybe) Fearless and Loyal chronicles the operational history of one of the largest, but least known of the German states during the Napoleonic Wars. Fearless and Loyal chronicles the operational history of one of the largest, but least known of the German states during the Napoleonic Wars. Originally an old Ducal state, Napoleon elevated its ruler to King in 1805 as part of the Confederation of the Rhine. It's troops served the Emperor until 1813, when it's king deserted to the allies to save his Kingdom. This book will cover the people, units and uniforms of the Wurttemberg Army, full of color illustrations throughout
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Prince of Essling | 05 Mar 2020 1:27 p.m. PST |
Paraphrased from W J Rawkins on the Landregiments. November 1813 Landbattalione were brought up to strength. 8 single battalion regiments formed each with a regimental staff and 5 companies. 7 regiments were infantry and the companies were called musketeers (not fusiliers). Landregiment Nr 1 "Ulm" Landregiment Scharfscutzen Nr 2 "Hall" Landregiment Nr 3 "Hohenlohe" Landregiment Nr 4 "Ellwangen" Landregiment Nr 5 "Schorndorf" Landregiment Nr 6 "Heilbronn" Landregiment Nr 7 "Stuttgart" Landregiment Nr 8 "Ludwisburg" Headgear in 1813 was the shako, same model as for the line infantry. (originally had the helmet but without the woolcrest). Jacket – mid grey with black facings (collar, shoulder straps, cuffs & turnbacks), white metal buttons. Breeches mid grey. Note from Nafziger "The End of Empire" In the battle of Montereau on 18 Feb the 9th & 10th Wurttemberg Infantry Regiments were nearly totally destroyed or captured. In addition the 2nd, 3rd, 6th & 7th infantry regiments suffered very heavy losses. The Wurttembergers reported losing 2,844 men. These regiments were rebuilt around 6 March by disbanding the 3rd, 4th & 5th Land Regiments and absorbing their men into the understrength line regiments. |
von Winterfeldt | 05 Mar 2020 11:45 p.m. PST |
The Landscharfschützen had this grey uniform with green facings, short black gaiters, in 1814 the usual shako. |
Patrick Obrien | 12 Mar 2020 9:59 a.m. PST |
Just put in – landregiment Wurttemberg into the image search box, scroll down till you see the coloured illustrations on the – nacekomie.ru site. Illustrations of the grey uniforms . |
von Winterfeldt | 12 Mar 2020 10:21 a.m. PST |
can you please send a link. |
Allan F Mountford | 09 Apr 2020 10:57 a.m. PST |
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