"What Happened to these Books?" Topic

There were/are a number of books advertised [for years, in some cases] that have yet to arrive, listed below. Any insights as to if these will see the light of day?

For those who write and or have insight into the publishing process, what is the process to bring a manuscript to life [published]:

1. Army of the Kingdom of Italy – by Stephen Ede-Borrett -Publication Date – 01 April, 2019; Helion & Company; one of the titles in the Reason to Revolution Series.

2. Fearless and Loyal – History of the Wurttemberg Army by David Zumsteg; original publication date: 15 April, 2018; by Winged Hussar Publications.

3. Soldiers of the French Army – 1814 by Gilles Boue; 28 September, 2015; Histoire & Collections.

4. Waterloo – The Struggle for Hougoumont by John Franklin; 19 August, 2018; Fonthill Media

5. The French Artillery of the Napoleonic Wars – by Ludovic Letrun and Jean-Marie Mongin; 19 July, 2019; Editions Heimdal

Appreciate any insights.

Good question. The Italian army book is of interest.

1. all the books from this author are delayed at HELION, not only this one but others titles in Century of the Soldier, last time I asked to Andrew Bamford he can't precise any publication date even approximative, that is why the titles have been removed from their catalogue

2. should be published this year spring 2020 according to WHP…

3.?!…unfortunately as it is known H&C has been bought by an other Company 4 years ago, so having purely ceased to exist as independant company, among the first consequences, people fired of course, and its Napoleonic book department has been closed

4…

5. hum? has been published at least in french last year

The French artillery book is also out in English. I have a copy.

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It may be rare now hence the silly price on Amazon.

that is not the same book,
this one it was the first version published by Histoire & Collections in their serie Officers and Soldiers, as said unfortunately H&C doesn't publish this kind of books now

the version in this thread concerns HEIMDAL
books already published
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Artillery
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What about here as a source?

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for the Napoleonic that is only the titles still remaining in stock, SOPHIA (who bought H&C) is only interested in publishing new WWII & modern warfare topics for their books despite the H&C Napoleonic dept was cost-effective

For those who write and or have insight into the publishing process, what is the process to bring a manuscript to life (published):

Andrew Bamford From Reason to Revolution Serie Editor at Helion & Company

#4 is certainly disappointing. No Franklin book to read, no Franklin contributions here on TMP to enjoy and increase my knowledge. The lack of news about this book is sad. Hope it is published one day.

Lilian -

Heimdal "burst" onto the Napoleonic uniform books [in ENGLISH anyway] some time back, republishing the H&C titles on the Imperial Guard, under the same authors. I noted the Heimdal books included "new" content [probably edited out of the H&C editions. So yes, the French version of this [and Rivoli] have been out….but will an english language version follow?

I was "hoping" [beyond hope perhaps] that this might apply to H&C titles I thought might be in development, specifically, finishing the French Dragoons series [H&C had published 2 volumes, finishing the history of the arm just prior to the Empire period. I thought they might ][like the Chasseurs series] be another 2 volumes.

Regards the Gilles Boue book, do the rights revert to the author if the publishers do not proceed with the project? WOuld it be possible to see this title published elsewhere?

With regards the Wurttemberg book, I have seen this title get retimed several times when the publications date come and go. SO, I will hope, but not expect this title.

Yes, let us weep for the Franklin book disappearing from the radar screen.

Artilleryman – yes I expect [but not certain] that the Heimdal Edition has different content from the H&C edition [which I also have].

I find Amazon somewhat of a tease, when they advertise these books, with future publication dates that seem to inexorably be mover outward into the future. There are books that were advertised 3-4-5 years ago, that have never made it to print!

Thanks, Lilian, for your insights into the state of French Napoleonic Book publishing. Sad the state of affairs seems diminished at the moment [for English markets/readers].

>For those who write and or have insight into the publishing process, what is the process to bring a manuscript to life [published]:

I have a magazine background, which I imagine is not too different from books.

Editor assigns article (myriad reasons why this article and not that article, but for this purpose, 'article'

Writer researches and writes article and then turns it in.

Editing process -- how many hands an article goes through depends on the publication. I was Sr Editor on a 500,000+ circ mag back then. So: assigning editor, Asst Managing Editor, Copy Editor, Managing Editor, Executive Editor, and Editor in Chief. At any point, and often, comments were returned to the writer for clarification, additions, etc.

Art process -- needed illustrations and photographs were assigned to artists and photographers, usually with some input from writer, but mostly editors.

Layout process -- Text and Art get merged, preferably with the art supporting the text in the appropriate place. Ads get placed during this process, with the article flowed onto pages with half page ads and 1/3 page ads.

'Crunching' process -- Of course, the article length has to fit the space assigned, so another round of editing to add or subtract text to make the layout work.

'Blues' process -- yes, this is old school because a proof was printed on bluish paper (at least our mag was) and sent for one last look through. It's electronic now, but back then you better have a real good reason to change anything. I can recall only a few times when something was altered.

Production process -- Shipped to printer, mailed to subscribers and to newsstand distributors.

We were a monthly, so this was a three-month process. With more electronic production, likely faster turnaround times, although the creative process (writing, art, and layout) can only be shortened by so much. As above was mentioned, articles could be delayed, but given the tight deadlines, almost never. Again, only a couple times while I was there, which meant the staff had to work extra time to create something to replace it…or, when I was freelancing, an editor would call with a last minute assignment.

With a book, especially one that uses images from elsewhere, you can add the time to get permission from the copyright owner to use the images in the book.

Hope this helps.

Last 28th february concerning
Fearless and Loyal: A History of the Wurttemberg Army 1792 – 1815
(David Zumsteg – Winged Hussard Publishing)
I wrote
2. should be published this year spring 2020 according to WHP…

not even sure for this year…

today the publication date on amazon has been changed from 21st april to 29th december 2020

Lilian, yes this is the standard method I have observed for these books, as we approach the publish release dates, they get revised further into the future.

After several rounds of a book publication date slipping YEARS into the future, I am left asking the original post question…..

What Happened to these Books?

as 29th December 2020 is approaching, now the Wurttemberg Army is delayed until february…2022

sure that the COVID didn't help the editors

for Gilles Boué's book about 1814 at H&C c.2014-2015 the author will be there
TMP link

"#4 is certainly disappointing. No Franklin book to read, no Franklin contributions here on TMP to enjoy and increase my knowledge. The lack of news about this book is sad. Hope it is published one day."

Couldn't agree more.

And before anyone starts with "Yet another book on The Battle of Waterloo?!?!"……………this one was to deal with just Hougoumont, I was very excited when I first heard about it, very disappointed that so far, it has not seen the light of day.

What a shame.

as february 2022 was the deadline, now the Fearless and Loyal: A History of the Wurttemberg Army 1792–1815 is announced to be delayed until february…2023

first original publication date was not 2018 but 2016

maybe there will be a 48-pages Osprey MAA before as there is book vote with such planned title…one day or not
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Men At Arms Napoleon's German Allies (6): Württemberg

And there's a preparation of a larger book about the Wurttemberg army in Germany, too – same kind of study like in the Westphalian book (cf. link ) – but fortunately there a lots more contemporary images of Wurttemberg troops than Westphalian ones.

So, perhaps this book may be published parallel to the Helion book … and it will be published in English too :-)

Greetings from Berlin
Markus Stein