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forwardmarchstudios25 Feb 2020 12:37 a.m. PST

picture

In 2mm, of course.

Hi def here: link

I'm 99% done with both armies. I just have a few final touches to put on the last two Austrian corps. Hopefully I'll have it all ready by the weekend so I can get some pictures of the entire set up.

The set-up also includes little laminated placards with the corps commanders' and division commanders' names. Brigadiers of major cavalry commands (e.g., Lasalle) get their own placard as well. The corps commanders also get a special medallion in their national colors… just because. I may include the number of troops led on each commander's placard. I think that will add a lot of value at conventions.

Stoppage25 Feb 2020 3:22 a.m. PST

Do the poor wee chappies/chapesses know that you'll be marching them to their doom?

forwardmarchstudios25 Feb 2020 10:48 a.m. PST

I'll be marching them to HISTORICON this year, hopefully.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Feb 2020 12:17 p.m. PST

Trying to figure out how small the stands are.

Looks like the smallest are maybe 3/8 x 1/2" ?

And then most/many are about 3/4" x 1" ?

Will they be grouped on movement stands?

forwardmarchstudios25 Feb 2020 1:00 p.m. PST

The French battalions stands are 12mm squares.

The Austrian battalions are 20mm x 12mm rectangles.

2 squadrons are represented by a 12mm square with two lines of cavalry. For regiments with odd numbers of squadrons I use a base with a "-" sign on it's label.

Artillery batteries are "officially" 12mm squares (as provided in the Library files). But I used cut-up ones that I already had painted up, so they're a bit narrow. This won't make a difference during a game.

The labeling system has the entire OOB location of the unit, the regimental number, notes (like G for Grenzer, Lt. for Light Infantry, IH for Insurrection Hussars, etc). The artillery units have the number of guns, the weight of shot, and the type (foot, horse, position).

The groundscale is exactly 10mm=100m. The map of the battlefield is set at the same scale. It's 9' x 4', which gives some idea of just how gigantic the Wagram battlefield was. The small scale was done to allow this to be played on one map at this fine tactical scale, which I think is a first in wargaming.

That said, one could increase the size of the units by 50% to get a 15' x 6' map. At that scale French battalions would be 18mm squares (rounded up to 20mm for sanity's sake), Austrians roughly 30mm. That would be roughly the largest that you could play on. You could use 6mm or 3mm at that scale I chose to go lower because I wanted to follow-up with this model/hex hybrid idea, and to keep the map more manageable and cheaper.

I don't believe in movement stands! What i do is place plexiglas over top of the map, and then I use a crupier's stick to push the models around. It keeps them in perfect alignment. Since each units entire OOB information in color coded on their tag it makes it very easy to set them up and then keep them organized once on the table.

I'm working on some rules that allow players to handle this many units. Current options are modified Blucher or VnB. But I have a pretty crazy idea that I'm working on.

Markconz25 Feb 2020 4:15 p.m. PST

Jolly good, make sure you do some thorough reports and pics of it! ;)

Bandolier25 Feb 2020 4:19 p.m. PST

They look very impressive for such a tiny army

forwardmarchstudios25 Feb 2020 4:45 p.m. PST

This is only about 1/4 of the two armies. I have everything else done except the last two Austrian corps, which I will finish up tonight.

Lots of pictures will be forthcoming, trust me. This project is going to get a youtube video, possibly its own website or webpage, how-tos, etc. The models and map are already available, but when it's done I'm going to package it all up with the labels and make it available as a sort of online boxed-deal. And finally, I'll be rolling it out at conventions. If I can't make it back East this summer I may find someone who wants to put on a game and mail it out to them. Another great thing about 2mm is that it travels really well! I could take both armies along in a single organizing tray in my carry-on, and the map could be put inside of an artists canvas tube.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Feb 2020 6:21 a.m. PST

Forwardmarchstudios, how do you manage to do this?
Not paying a cent to Bill, but having your commercial announcements here untouched. I pay to Bill but anyway have my two pictures about my sculpting efforts deleted today, because "commercial announcements need to be in Hobby News, not the forum".

forwardmarchstudios26 Feb 2020 8:47 a.m. PST

I would guess because he didn't consider my post to be a commercial announcement. The packaged files in question don't exist yet; my post only mentions (once, amongst a much larger thread) that at some point in the future I intend to put all the Wagram files together. Otherwise, everything is about the modeling project.

It's also possible that Bill is a 28mm player and, like many, does not consider 2mm to be a proper miniature scale ; )

But I don't want to get in an argument about it. If he wants to nuke it he can nuke it. Although it'd be easier to just cut out that one sentence if he finds it problematic. I"ll still post the final project.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Feb 2020 9:18 a.m. PST

Yes, indeed, all the same. I also haved pictures of my 10mm and 15mm sculpts, which at some point in the future may be part of something bigger. But not yet and now. The final product, if such will be, was intended to post on Hobby News anyway.

Stoppage26 Feb 2020 10:15 a.m. PST

Sho – perhaps have another login – which is commercial?

Then you could still post everywhere else as a hobbyist and only

The Tyn Man26 Feb 2020 12:51 p.m. PST

Super, and I'm very envious as I'm working on the same battle in 15mm, but no where's near being done.

Well done so far.

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