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Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Feb 2020 11:58 a.m. PST

Got DasTri to create me some Ming artillery and warwagons for a 15mm DBMM army that I will field in a couple of weeks at Baltrum.

Printout as for the DBMM base and a barrel for 28mm:

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WIP-file – wheels got an overhaul and the central wheel got scrapped for two.

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Inspiration comes from orignal works, as shown and assembled here:
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This is a "great divine" cannon, 1.92m – the largest piece in the Ming field arsenal. With 200+ years of operational history of gun usage it is a bit astonishing that the Ming never managed to develope effective lafettes – they usually put the guns on the ground, even the "crouching Tiger" types with a length of just 60cm.

Other guns and warwagons are in the pipeline.

Masse de Decision24 Feb 2020 9:21 p.m. PST

I would argue that because China was a large country, it didn't have the same geopolitical issues that European countries did.

European countries were much smaller and because of this there was a fair amount of international trade going on across their borders. This trade promoted the sharing of ideas and because these countries were small and so close to each other, it also fueled a military arms race.

China did not have the same issues

There's also a saying that goes back to the Sung Dynasty. "Just as you do not use good iron to make a nail, you do not use a good man to make a soldier."

Throughout a good part of China's history, the military has been seen as a repository for wastrels, gamblers, and thieves. During the Ming period, there was a lot of corruption. Some officers hired out their men for labor. Others falsified their records and pocketed pay for soldiers who only existed on the books. Still others taught their men to look smart and to shout fierce war cries while stinting (or even abstaining) from any military drills.

Such environments were simply not conducive to innovation and far too many of the senior officers felt no compulsion to make any changes or reforms.

Koxinga03 Mar 2020 4:09 a.m. PST

wish this was commercially available!

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