15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 20 Feb 2020 9:51 a.m. PST |
Has anyone done a size comparison of the Khurasan T-64BV shown below to the Battlefront T-64? I'm considering buying a few but if the size difference is as glaring as between the Khurasan T-90 and Battlefront T-72 I will have to pass. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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dragon6 | 20 Feb 2020 8:39 p.m. PST |
What is the size difference between the Khurasan T90 and the Battlefront T72? |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 21 Feb 2020 9:08 a.m. PST |
What is the size difference between the Khurasan T90 and the Battlefront T72? Length and width are pretty close between the Khurasan T-90 and the BF T-72, but the height difference is the deal-breaker (the T-72 is much taller): link
Looks like I'll have to pass on the BV. At $14 USD apiece it's probably just as well. |
williamb | 26 Feb 2020 3:06 p.m. PST |
You should provide the dimensions of the models. The T90 is 6.86m long (hull) x 3.78m wide x 2.22m tall The T73 is 6.95m x 3.59m x 2.23m. The hull sizes look like they compare correctly. The T90 looks like It is not tall enough, but the picture is taken at an angle instead of straight on. |
Joe Legan | 27 Feb 2020 6:39 p.m. PST |
If it helps lend credence I have some QRF russian tanks and they also are shorter [ less tall?] than the battlefront ones. Different units they will work but not in close proximity. Joe |
williamb | 28 Feb 2020 2:22 p.m. PST |
15mm is about 1:120. At that scale the tanks should be about 18.5mm tall |
Space Ghost | 29 May 2020 8:07 p.m. PST |
I actually reached out to Khurasan Miniatures, and asked for the actual dimensions of their T-72 with ERA and T-64BV. Email went unanswered after about two weeks, so I messaged Khurasan on Facebook. He did reply, but only stated that his miniatures are "1/100 scale", without providing the actual dimensions so I could measure against my BF T-72 and T-64. I, politely I might add, asked him a second time if it would be possible to get the actual physical dimensions of the model so I could compare it to my existing BF collection, stating I wanted to get some of the tanks he produces, but would like to be sure they match my existing collection. Khurasan's response was that he had "already answered". So, they very well may not match up, if he's reluctant to provide dimensions. Regardless, I will not be ordering from the gentleman. |
Mark Hoffman | 30 May 2020 9:46 a.m. PST |
The Khuristan and Battlefront T-64's are pretty close in size. The Khuristan T-64 is a slight bit shorter than the Battlefront model, but width and length are similiar.I tried to post side by side pictures, but can't figure out how to on this board. |
Mark Hoffman | 30 May 2020 9:54 a.m. PST |
link Photos of the two compared together
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Space Ghost | 31 May 2020 11:27 a.m. PST |
Well, thank you, Mr. Hoffman! You provided an answer faster, and more courteous, than the gentlemen selling the tanks! I am curious, would you be willing to provide a top-down pic of the two manufacturer's, so we can see the length and width ? Thank you. |
Mark Hoffman | 31 May 2020 12:24 p.m. PST |
link I'll see if this works |
Mark Hoffman | 31 May 2020 12:28 p.m. PST |
The Khurasan T-64 is on the left in each picture as viewed from the front of the tanks. I usually add a spare Battlefront commanders cupola and MG to add height to the Khurasan T-64, as the Khurasan cupola is very small,and to make it look similar to the Battlefront T-64 |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 01 Jun 2020 8:09 a.m. PST |
Thanks Mark. I might just get a few of the T-64BV's, which may be even closer in size to the BF model since they have ERA bricks plastered all over them. I found some nice comparison pics between the BF T-72A and the Zvezda T-72B with Kontakt-5 ERA btw:
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Mark Hoffman | 01 Jun 2020 11:03 a.m. PST |
Thanks. And thanks for the Zvezda/Battlefront T-72 comparison pictures. I've been thinking about getting some of the Khurisan T-64BVs also. They do look pretty nice.I might try to convert some Zvezda T-72s to earlier T-72Bs.I've tried to before, but didn't care for the way they turned out |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 01 Jun 2020 3:05 p.m. PST |
If you're looking to do plain T-72B's (no ERA), just use the Battlefront T-72A model and add a layer of extra armor (Brezhnev's eyebrows) along the front arc of the turret using green stuff. The Zvezda hull would not be suitable. If it's the T-72BV it's a lot more work because you'll be adding lots of tiny Kontakt-1 ERA's. |
Space Ghost | 02 Jun 2020 7:40 p.m. PST |
The Khurasan T-64 does look very close to the BF T-64, much better then T-90 & T-72 comparison. I'd still be weary that if that's indicative of how the T-64BV would fit with BF models, since it could have been an entirely new sculpt and KM did make that T-90 short. Nevertheless, if you do end up getting one, do come back and share some pictures, I'd be curious. Not sure I'd ever order from Khurasan, given the difficulty and lack of success I've had just asking for some measurements. I'd hate to see how he treat folks with an actual problem with their order. Shame, though, because if they'd matched up well, i'd have picked up at least a company's worth from him. |
Mark Hoffman | 03 Jun 2020 6:38 a.m. PST |
I don't understand what happened and why Khurasan didn't answer the questions. I've ordered from them three or four times, and never had an issue with their quality or shipping. This was all before Battlefront came out with their T-64 kits, though. |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 04 Jun 2020 5:17 p.m. PST |
I'd still be weary that if that's indicative of how the T-64BV would fit with BF models, since it could have been an entirely new sculpt and KM did make that T-90 short. You may be right. I found this pic on Beast of War of a Khurasan T-64BV someone held on his right palm link and tried to replicate it with one of my BF T-64's and see if a reasonable comparison can be made. I can only conclude that it's either too small or I must have small hands (and a long pinkie finger).
I don't understand what happened and why Khurasan didn't answer the questions. Like Space Ghost I also tried but other than telling me it's "1/100" they refused to provide exact dimensions. So it's probably because they know it's not a match. Assuming that's the case, at $13.99 USD each (nearly twice as much as a BF plastic) it'll have to be a hard pass for me. |
Legion 4 | 05 Jun 2020 7:25 a.m. PST |
Nice paint job on those top pics ! |
Space Ghost | 07 Jun 2020 9:11 p.m. PST |
Oh, dang, you inquired too about the dimensions and got the same answer! Yeah, not a good sign. Players trying to build collections from different manufactures, but wanting to know if they match size wise is like as old as the hobby itself. Not sure why they want to be evasive: if they're not a match, they're not a match. Better to tell people, and maybe give the actual dimensions so folks can decide for themselves -- after all folks have different tolerances for "what is compatible", and for some it may not work, but other gamers wouldn't be bothered by the difference. |
dragon6 | 13 Jun 2020 10:46 a.m. PST |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik I do note that you have your BT-64 placed slightly differently on your hand. Your photo has the inside of left the track unit lined up with the crease of the little finger joint and the photo from the web has the outside of the left track unit lined up the crease of the little finger joint. I don't know if it would make any difference |