"Sergeants Royal Marines" Topic
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grenadier corporal | 17 Feb 2020 6:52 a.m. PST |
Several illustrations seem to indicate that sergeants of the Royal Marines till about 1805 had an aiguilette – a kind of thin white cord – hanging from the right shoulder as a mark of their rank, adopting the three chevrons on the right upper arm only later. I couldn't find more information on that and would appreciate any help, especially on the kind of cord used and the date of change. Did sergeants have a sword and sponton or musket and bayonet? |
Bellbottom | 17 Feb 2020 8:54 a.m. PST |
How about an email to the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich, they may be able to help? |
IronDuke596 | 17 Feb 2020 11:55 a.m. PST |
Sergeants wore a sword and carried a pike similar to their army brethren. I have a digital copy of a Fosten print that shows the early Royal Marine dress for a Sergeant. If you would like a copy or need other info like 28mm figures of the same, send me your email address via the PM. |
IronDuke596 | 18 Feb 2020 7:31 a.m. PST |
Also, my speculation is that the RM sgts. at sea used a musket vice pike for space reasons…it would be cumbersome for boarding etc. That is why some plates show sgts.of line companies with muskets. However, for the three RM battalions certainly sgts. were equipped with the pike, except for the light company sgts. Plates are on the way. |
22ndFoot | 18 Feb 2020 9:24 a.m. PST |
In 1805, a sergeant in His Majesty's Corp of Royal Marines would have been distinguished by his sash – crimson worsted with a dark blue centre stripe. The white shoulder knot denotes a corporal. |
grenadier corporal | 18 Feb 2020 11:42 p.m. PST |
link This would be simply wrong then? |
IronDuke596 | 22 Feb 2020 11:02 a.m. PST |
For the TMP record: Royal Marine information from Nelson's Navy by the renown uniformologist Philip Haythornthwaite, on the text to plate I figure 4; (shows a RM sergeant c 1810 with three chevrons on the right sleeve, sword, crimson sash striped royal blue, round hat and carrying a pike) it states "marine sergeants and corporals wore the old-style white knot on the right shoulder until chevrons were introduced as rank insignia, on the right arm, in September 1807;" So chevrons were introduced five years after the army adopted them. |
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