Andy Skinner | 25 Jan 2020 9:24 a.m. PST |
I bought some tins to store figures with magnets on bases. I was painting them up nice. I bought a stencil for the top, made stencils for the sides. I primed with a paint/primer combo. All seemed to go well. Then today I sealed. The paint on some parts seemed to just wrinkle up. I touched one part, and it just wiped right off. Pictures here. I always forget how to get links to Google Pictures to appear here. link This one was for elves. Only the first picture shows the problem. If I had it to do over, I might do primer first. I'm not sure I trust the paint/primer combo. The tins had a shiny metal finish. I don't know what to do, but I was pretty happy with this until now. andy |
Andy Skinner | 25 Jan 2020 9:38 a.m. PST |
I sealed these in the garage. It was in the 50s out there. (I actually put a heater out there for a while first.) I suppose the cold could have something to do with it. I've only sprayed one top, and its bad spots are localized. I may be able to touch those up. The rest I could seal with the airbrush inside. It will just take a lot longer than the Krylon clear spray can. andy |
Editor in Chief Bill | 25 Jan 2020 10:19 a.m. PST |
Beautiful tin. Hope you can fix the problem. |
Max Schnell | 25 Jan 2020 10:39 a.m. PST |
Are you using acrylics and enamels? If you are stick with one or the other. |
Andy Skinner | 25 Jan 2020 10:56 a.m. PST |
Rustoleum paint/primer. Vallejo airbrush stencil color. (This didn't come off.) Krylon clear gloss spray. Not sure what is in the sprays. If problem is cold, I can just try again when warmer. But I admit I'll be hesitant to spray the tin. The wrinkled parts are isolated, so I hope I can clean off the wrinkle and prime/paint that again, covering the design. I guess I could also get a brush-on sealer for these. I'm normally very happy with Krylon clear. But I sure don't want to ruin these. andy |
Rich Bliss | 25 Jan 2020 6:42 p.m. PST |
Problem is unlikely the cold per se, rather a difference in temperature. Make sure your sprays are the same temperature of the tin when you spray |
jdginaz | 25 Jan 2020 7:27 p.m. PST |
Sounds like the tin is colder than the air around it so that the surface of the paint is drying quicker than the underside that is in contact with the tin. |
Andy Skinner | 02 Jun 2020 4:30 p.m. PST |
I sanded the parts that wrinkled and sprayed on a recent warmish and dry day, covering with the same green primer/paint I used before. It immediately wrinkled up again. I think it is not the temperature, and may be something about the outside of the tin and the paint. Next time I may sand the whole outside and use a primer separately. I don't know if I can save the current tin. I may try to see whether airbrush sealer has the same effect on the main tin. For the lid, where I have had the wrinkles, I am considering trying to get the wrinkles all over on purpose, or starting over. andy |
AICUSV | 03 Jun 2020 10:28 a.m. PST |
I just had an artillery limber 'wrinkle" for me. Temp was in the low 70's (F), humidity was below 40%. It was a clear coat (Krylon Clear Gloss) over acrylics. I've used this same combination on over 100 figures (for this project) without issue, even this piece isn't 100% wrinkled, only of the limber chest top and back. I can only think that I may have put too heavy a coat on the piece. |