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Whitestreak06 Jan 2020 3:49 p.m. PST

AKA as "MOUT" is an interesting and complicated subject, I've gathered from just looking around and a smattering of knowledge of military weapons and personnel.

Now, are there any decent books available on the subject? I've requested "Concrete Hell" by Louis DiMarco through my library – are there any other books you find informative?

Thanks!

Thresher0106 Jan 2020 4:17 p.m. PST

There is at least one US Army Field Manual on the subject, which is worth checking out.

Written during the Cold War.

I suspect there may be more manuals available now, as they are updated. Not sure the latter will be in the public domain, however.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP06 Jan 2020 7:42 p.m. PST

Lots of links here:

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Bigby Wolf06 Jan 2020 8:41 p.m. PST

For a very personal experience of actual MOUT (or FIBUA, if we still call it that in UK?), I can recommend "House to House: A Soldier's Memoir" by David Bellavia.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP06 Jan 2020 9:19 p.m. PST

It's challenging to make work as a miniatures game, too.

Bigby Wolf06 Jan 2020 9:51 p.m. PST

Agreed. It obviously depends on the granularity you wish to replicate, but if I had to choose, I'd probably go with a separate "mini-board" to represent the house/building/floors and play it through with very specific custom rules.

And I wouldn't do that at anything above squad/section level (so from 8 to 12 guys).

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP07 Jan 2020 3:11 p.m. PST

There is at least one US Army Field Manual on the subject, which is worth checking out.
Written during the Cold War.
Yes I had the FM and others when on active duty. And we did train for it.

But generally you want to avoid it. However, even in recent conflicts it became the norm, it appears in many situations.

Today fear of inflicting CD limits much of the firepower available.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP07 Jan 2020 6:11 p.m. PST

It was pretty exhausting training clearing buildings, going up and down staircases, etc. Personally, I think you need a set of rules that incorporates fatigue if you are gaming anything other than a brief encounter.

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