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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2020 10:04 p.m. PST

"Some of you may be aware that I have been developing a Napoleonic version of my Post of Honour SYW rules. I felt it was time to give these rules their own distinct title. I had one or two ideas of my own, but I also appealed on the Google group for suggestions:…"
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Keef4404 Jan 2020 12:55 p.m. PST

Armand, thank you for flagging this up on TMP. Anyone interested in checking out the rules and commenting on them is recommended to go to the '' group rather than the Google Group, as I will be shutting down the latter in due course.

Another set of Napoleonic rules? My aim with 'Shadow of the Eagles' is to offer simplicity and brevity whilst retaining the required period flavour.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP05 Jan 2020 4:04 p.m. PST

A votre service mon ami!. (smile)


SHaT198405 Jan 2020 4:55 p.m. PST


Your comment on Blog~ since I also don't use these much, so I'll answer here, and for benefit of your followers feel free to crosspost:

"Keith Flint said…
I understand your reluctance to have your email out there, but in this particular case I don't think there's much to worry about. I'm afraid that making your email available is pretty much what Google groups is about, and I can't seem to configure the group to work in any other way. If someone with more knowledge can tell me there is an alternative I am all ears."

IOGroups is about as 'safe' as it can get.

1- No advertising, trackers or creepers following logged on members;
2- don't use original personal email (I don't) but create a new anonymous profile (give fake ph numbers so theres no tracking by THAT-G company);
3- don't use multi-corporate emails either- yes its a 'mail-list' as they used to be considered, but just logging onto the group site and reading messages saves a ton of agro !if you have many groups to join.

Me, I personally never liked masses of irrelevant 'me toos', 'thanks…', 'for sales' etc. that came from hobby groups, where I used to reside on Yahew(failed) for 20+ odd years. Always read on line and if necessary replied there. Doesn't clutter or confuse ones email mailbox/ PC/ account.

-4 IOG is a breeze, security good, functionally smooth and clean, has a one man ownership who is in contact with his member/ subscribers (paid enhancements are available) and use a real Group name but cryptic email name and you're about as safe in your own bed.

As I have my own groups and follow on others, I've just signed on to see your rules,
davew +nEw zEalanD+

Keef4406 Jan 2020 12:13 p.m. PST

Thanks very much for that information Dave. I hope it may encourage more people to join.


Keef4405 May 2020 2:52 p.m. PST

This is just to let people know that the project is still on-going. Version 4 of the rules is available for download now, completely free:

The rules are in the Files section. You will need to register.

Comments on the rules via the group are much appreciated.

A SYW version ('Post of Honour') can be found on my website for Honours of War:

Registration is required, but the rules are once again free.

Thanks for your interest.

Keith Flint

Keef4427 Jul 2020 7:44 a.m. PST

I can announce that Partizan Press have agreed to publish these rules later in the year. We are hoping for a publication date around Christmas.

So if anyone would like to join the effort to make the rules better, please join the play-test group:


Keith Flint

SHaT198427 Jul 2020 4:09 p.m. PST

Congrats Keith!

Keef4417 Oct 2020 2:46 a.m. PST

Version 9 now available for free download. Comments appreciated.

Keith Flint.

SHaT198404 Apr 2021 5:23 p.m. PST

Again, congrats Keith. Looking forward to publication etc. and much success with it.

Love to share a beer/ wine and chat all nite over the esoteric nature of the hobby ! Unfortunately you'll have to leave your cozy haven in the Cotswolds and come to C-19less New Zealand first!


Keef4407 Apr 2021 9:49 a.m. PST

Cheers Dave. Some time in NZ would suit me down to the ground. Maybe the rest of my life.

SHaT198414 May 2021 3:03 p.m. PST

Keef44 – Or is it really Flint0-44….?

Certainly, the Shadow has landed….
many thanks and regards,

SHaT198415 May 2021 5:10 p.m. PST

IS that Capitaine Flint?

IMG_5293_'Shadow of the Eagles' ©KFlint_PartizanPressUK
by DaveW, on Flickr.


pfmodel16 May 2021 1:11 a.m. PST

I cannot seem to find, I am assuming you have changed its name?

SHaT198416 May 2021 1:50 a.m. PST

Keith signalled his intention to close the group once the rules were under publishers control.
He must have done it.
I believe his blog remains active.

pfmodel16 May 2021 4:00 a.m. PST

Thanks, that makes sense.

SHaT198416 May 2021 4:27 a.m. PST

Hes at --

and rulebook web site --

cheers wine

johannes5516 May 2021 4:51 a.m. PST

Any decent review around?

johannes5522 May 2021 12:02 p.m. PST

So probably not

Keef4423 May 2021 11:59 a.m. PST

An initial reaction can be found here:


johannes5524 May 2021 11:56 a.m. PST

thnaks, but as you said, it is just an initial reaction and no decent review

SHaT198424 May 2021 1:44 p.m. PST

Well *johannes* you seem to expect an awful lot from them.
He covers the entire subject well, quoting many of the mechanisms; albeit based on a stand-alone 'experiment'. The comments give a bit more detail as well.

The rules are not for rabid, dog eat dog competitions, nor even I'd say, competitive individuals of a certain type. You should expect to play 'the period' not look for loopholes.

The disruptive effects often experienced of massive movements and all powerful dominant batteries are not here. Attritional decline and need to employ some tactics (and a reserve) are required. A 1-1 firefight is likely to wear down both parties to nullity, and that was confusing at first.

Overall Keiths captured a view of the era and actions, and given a number of educational disciplines (organisation) and structure to what comes across as chaotic in other rules.

Whilst I assisted with supporting 'evidence' I had no influence on the rules themselves. They are good for mature, period knowledgeable gamers and will be an excellent introduction to those newcomers wanting a 'gentle' entry to the period.

On a scale of 1-5, if one wants to know; I'd given them 2.5 for difficulty; 4.5 for playability; 4 for learning. Those sick of 'mainstream' rules may find them refreshing.

If there is a failing it is the lack of descriptions of illustrations in a liberally illustrated book. But that is an editorial issue, not authorship.

Regards davew

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