"The Proxy War Between The US And Iran Is Intensifying" Topic

… In Places Like Iraq.

"The angry demonstrations at the American embassy in Baghdad on Tuesday are just the latest installment in a deepening confrontation between the US and Iran for influence in Iraq.

It's a struggle that dates back to the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in 2003 and the emergence of a Shia-dominated state in Iraq. But in light of the Trump administration's campaign of maximum economic pressure against Iran, it has reached a new and potentially dangerous pitch.

The President himself Tuesday accused Iran of "orchestrating an attack on the U.S. Embassy," and the White House said he would decide "how and when we respond to their escalation."…"

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Truth be told. This "proxy war" between the U.S. and Iran has been ongoing for a very long time. What is different now is that US sanctions are currently crippling Iran's economy, and Iran is escalating its response against these sanctions via through its proxies. But this escalation is only laying bare that these "proxies" operate at the behest of Tehran, especially in places like Iraq.

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Armand

Well, I think the how and when has been decided.

Iran suddenly realizes the United States wasn't bluffing.

The plan is you don't give a bully your lunch money; you punch him in the nose. It is the only thing bullies understands.

What doesn't represent the interests of the United States is sending the leading sponsor of global terrorism a plane load of millions in cash in the middle of the night.

This could scalate bad….

Hope not!.

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Armand

Lest we forget…

• 1979 – Iran stormed US embassy, took diplomatic staff hostages

• 1982 – Iranian agents kidnap US citizens in Lebanon

• 1983 –
o Iranian/Hezbollah attack kills 241 US servicemen in suicide bombing in Beirut
o Iranian/Hezbollah attack on US consulate kills 63
o Iranian agents attack the US embassy in Kuwait, killing 6

• 1984 –
o Iranian agents kidnap and kill multiple US citizens in Lebanon
o Iranian/Hezbollah attack US consulate in Lebanon, killing 24
o Iranian agents hijack Kuwait Air flight 221, diverting it to Tehran where 2 American USAID workers are executed and dumped on the tarmac

• 1985 – Iranian agents hijack TWA 847, hold hostages for 17 days, one US citizen is executed and his body dumped on the tarmac

• 1986 – Iranian/Hezbollah take multiple US citizens hostage in Lebanon
o Note – Iranian ctions continued as Reagan did the Iran-Contra hostage deal, attempting to buy off Iran. Iran responded with attacks on ships in the Persian Gulf, the US response was to destroy several Iranian oil platforms – first overt US response after 7 years of attacks by Iran.

• 1988 – Iran lays mines in the Persian Gulf, one of which strikes the frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts, which almost sinks. The US responds leading to the largest surface naval engagement since WW2 resulting in 2 destroyed Iranian oil platforms, 2 warships and 8 fast attack boats. Tragically also leads to the shoot down of an Iranian passenger plane.

• 1996 – Iranian/Hezbollah agents bomb the Khobar towers in Saudi Arabia, killing and injuring almost 400

• 1998 – Iranian agents bomb the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzaia, killing more than 200

• 2000 – Iran supported AQ's attack on the USS Cole, which killed and injured almost 50 US sailors

• Iraq: In the aftermath of the US invasion and occupation of Iraq, Iran sent in Revolutionary Guards agents to organize, train and arm Shiite militias in Iraq and try to carve out an Iranian proxy in southern Iraq and stoked secular violence. According to various articles you can find on the web, Iran had as many as 1,000 military advisors/troops in Iraq and has spent more than $1 USD Billion on the Shiite militia movements in Iraq. Direct and indirect US casualties number in the thousands.

• 2011 – Iranian agents stopped from conducting a bombing attack in Washington, DC

• Yemen: Iran backed the Shiite Houthi tribe with guns, money and advisors and the Houthi accelerated a low-level civil war into a coup de main and largely took over Yemen. Most forget that when the Houthi seized the Yemen capitol, the Obama Admin ordered the USMC embassy security detail to surrender.
o 2. Iran then used its presence in Yemen to launch a proxy war on the Saudis and the UAE, firing Scud missiles and staging terrorist attacks from Houthi controlled territory in Yemen.
o 3. The Saudis appealed to the Arab League, and then the Arab League – a dozen countries – sent troops into Yemen to combat the Iranian-backed Houthis.
o So what we have going on is a defacto war between Iran and the Arab League, in Yemen, which also involves the Iranian-armed Houthi launching Scuds, anti-ship missiles that have damaged and sunk mutiple cargo and military ships, drone attacks and terror attacks.

• Syria: Iran has extended significant support to Syria, both directly and via its Hezbollah proxy army, propping up the Assad regime and launching attacks on Israel.

• Iran has also been blamed for conducting terrorist attacks in:
o Albania
o Bahrain
o Germany
o India
o Israel
o Kenya
o Argentina
o Thailand
o France
o Denmark

You forgot a big one SB, Operation Ajax and the 25 years of US sponsored domestic repression that erupted in the theocratic Iranian Revolution.

Ops Ajax was both the US and UK. Don't forget it was the UK also.

Should never have happened. But the Iranian people are still being repressed by their own government.

Minipigs you can argue the exact amount of money but the fact remains that the US under the previous administration sent cash on a cargo plane to Iran. Iran, the biggest supporter of global terrorism.

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Ops Ajax was both the US and UK. Don't forget it was the UK also.

Technically, Ajax was the CIA part of the Operation. The UK part of the Operation was Operation Boot.

Minipigs you can argue the exact amount of money but the fact remains that the US under the previous administration sent cash on a cargo plane to Iran. Iran, the biggest supporter of global terrorism.

You mean the refund that the US owed Iran (plus interest) for not delivering weapons after the Shah got deposed? The monetary amount that the Obama admin decided to settle for rather than face the 10 billion dollar claim that the US was almost sure to lose in the Iran–United States Claims Tribunal? iusct.net

That's not the scandal you think it is.
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Thanks for the info on ops Ajax. I was aware of the 1953 coupe but not the technical details.

As far as the money to Iran; once again you are technically correct. In my opinion the US should have kept the money and told Iran to pound sand.

$1.5 USD+ BILLION, and counting.

Anyone else notice the big spike in the creation of missiles and rockets being used in the region against the Saudis, Yemenis, Israelis, and US troops after that large cash infusion to their economy?

It's certainly not benefiting the average Iranian citizens/taxpayers.

Iran's had American blood on their hands for a very, very long time, and it's a pity they weren't dealt with far sooner, and more effectively, years and decades ago.

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Proxy war zones end up being test areas for new weapons and tactics.