"Welcome to Tango's News agency?" Topic

Just stopped by to see if I could find something interesting to expand my knowlegde of the hobby. Instead, I counted 68 out of 81 (I quit counting there) chain of Tango posts- almost in a row…certainly in a block!

Don't want to come across the wrong way, but Geez….can we please see other people's posts once in a while? My hat is off to the 3 or 3 who actually succeeded in slipping in a post between his barrage of machine-gun like posts that are all over the spectrum! Sometimes feel he is phishing for some GI Wargamer to spill the beans on modern technology in a baiting move by posting some anti US or western point of view that will rise angst in someone.

The other posts helps to camoflague his real intent! His history and hobby posts have been good, but then we run into some contriversial subject. OPSEC my frinds….always remember OPSEC! (That is my message.)

If it bothers you block him like I did. I still pop in without signing on (different browser) from time to time to see what I am missing.

Long Live Tango!

Wolfhag

What Dynaman said, easiest solution.

Agree – While I dont read everything Tango posts – I read enough good stuff to keep me looking

Agree, net positive.

I've developed an appreciation of wear n tear and rust over the years which I attribute to my visits to TMP and Tango, oh, and Fallout.

Tango is a TMP feature not a bug, additionally so in that it is very simple to just mute him if that isn't what you want.
Personally I find a good number of his posts valuable. Thanks Tango!

Tango is Awesome

I appreciate Tango's efforts. Only read some of his posts; if you don't want to, you don't have to.

One suspects that you are free to contribute posts on things you like related to the hobby. I don't read all of Tango's posts, but some are interesting and I check those. If they are a problem for you I'm sure that means exists to either ignore them or block them.

I'm not sure there would be that much content on TMP without Tango.

He certainly covers the entire spectrum, but overall a net positive on his posts.

I had to block Tango because it was just too many. I appreciate some of his posts, and would not want him to stop, but the volume at which he posts is utterly ridiculous. A grown man can have a bit more filter than he does, and it DOES detract from the other content which gets buried in the avalanche of his postings. He is no longer in my feed, so I can see each day that there are far more posts than some of you seem to realize being made by other people (not as many as would be ideal, but did you ever think that maybe some are discouraged from posting when they get so little response because their initial posts are buried and hard to find?).

Tango, we love you, but slooooowwww down. Hell, I would support him having his own dedicated board, and then I would likely visit that board most days to see what he found. I just don't want it in the daily news feed to quite the current levels.

I think TMP would be moribund without him. Content levels need propping up sadly, so he provides an essential service at this time.

Despite the apparent success of the industry, the community seems to be dying or has moved elsewhere.

I appreciate Tom's contributions too but the presence of a Tango initiated thread doesn't prevent the appearance of other ones. It's just not a zero sum site.

GO TANGO !!!!!

I treat Tango's posts like Everyone else's posts. Some I read and some I don't. No big deal.

I scroll down through the messages, if a topic (not the author) draws my interest I click on it,

Regards.
Russ Dunaway

It helps to bump up posting numbers, which can be used as a selling point for potential advertisers. I suspect that is the whole point of Tango's existence. I have him ignored and stifled but his posts continue to show up. It is just that the block ones have no content. So they are of limited use. I am just overwhelmed by the sheer number of his posts.

Tango is a bit of a sacred cow on TMP. If you make the slightest negative comment about him you end up getting suspended or whatever it is called now a days. I keep expecting this thread to be deleted.

The angst TMP causes never ceases to amaze me.

Go Tango!

I never look at the author of a thread, just the titles.

If it wasn't for Armand and his devotion to a plethora of posts this would be a very boring site!!

I wonder it the situation would be viewed differently if the same amount of traffic was produced by Bill, or Gwen, or other staff members in order to (try to) keep TMP members and visitors interested.

I don't know why people think there would be little of interest on TMP without Tango. I've got him ignored/stifled etc and see none of his stuff but still find plenty of interest to merit visiting a couple of times a day.

Go Tango

Well, for me, he's gone and what bliss it is. For those who like him, he's still there. Everyone's a winner….

DBDD

Maybe he is on the payroll to generate content.

And yes, tmp would be much smaller without him.

I love his postings.

Tango is the reason, or one of the reasons, I stop being a supporting member.

Bill's house, Bill's rules, fine.
But also: my money -- spent elsewhere.

DF

As I recall a lot of his posts have very incomplete or generic titles and you don't really know for sure what it is about without clicking. That is a big part of why I stopped reading his posts. I know a lot of folks like them, and I liked some, but could not be sure too much of the time.

TMP would certainly be a different place without Tango's postings.

I prefer value over volume.

It is rare that something he posts is of interest to me so I have filtered him out.

Fewer posts do not impact my enjoyment of TMP. I look at is as skipping through ads to find what you are looking for and a time saver.

Doctor X +1

I think Tango should be the official TMP Communications Officer !

It really amazes me that anyone would be that upset with Tango's posts. If the topic does not interest you … don't click on it. No matter who the poster is …

every other site would imho ban Tango as a spammer. But as TMP needs "traffic" .
…..

Do get to see things I might not take a look at otherwise

I have had him on "ignore" for ages, suprising how little traffic there is here now without him.

Tango does produce an extraordinary number of posts indeed. I have often quoted a 60/40 split between what is rubbish, or simple duplication, and what is an absolute pearl I would have missed. I never specify which way the 40/60 spilt goes mind you!

I cannot understand the antagonism. One can take him or leave him and his work. There is this stifle option. It is not as though he has ever been aggressive or insulting to anyone, to my knowledge. TMP would be a poorer place without him. What possible harm does he do?

@Doug MSC
I treat Tango's posts like Everyone else's posts. Some I read and some I don't. No big deal.

So what's the issue? Remember the good ole days when we had something called "newspapers" a number of them had columnists who would just write about current affairs, local events, whatever struck their fancy. If the headline grabbed me I'd read it, if not, NEXT!!!
Think of Tango01 as a modern day Joe Soucheray.

Yogi. above, really nailed it. My main concern is that he very often seems to try to bait some young troop into talking about some things that seems borderline phishing for information on our military. Sorry, but that impression fits the M.O. of foreign intel-open source efforts of those who wish us ill. I am not saying he does not add some good posts, here, but that (to me) seems just an attempt to make one feel "safe" commenting on his more defense related informational posts. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's probably not a dog! If you are in posession of capabilities, techniques, tactics and technology of today's military, please remember the principles of Operational Security and not discuss them in public. In this case, I strongly suggest not to respond or comment on many of Tango's posts that discuss current events, or current events of military in nature. By all means, like everyone, Tango should be allowed to express his opinions. I just wish he would exercise some self restraint and post HIS comments/feelings and not cut and paste those of others. News of new products in the message boards is now Taboo. I miss that a lot! TMP used to be THE source to learn what is new in our hobby from many as a review. Even from the manufacturer was fine (and yes, Tango reposted here snips from their sites- and we all learned about happenings closer to real time. I have been very happy to continue to be a supporting member for nearly 2 decades. If the modus operendi keeps straying from why I remain, I will have to rethink my decision. I find myself lately frequenting other sites that provides easier ways to share photos than first having to have them posted elsewhere, then supply the link. Miniatures is a very visual hobby and am feeling a bit frustrated having to sift thru hundreds of posts to find discussion topics in periods I enjoy.

I think this is the first time in all the years I´ve been here that any member has been accused of being a spy. Wow.

I have the UM board turned off so the only time I see it is when someone has been dawghoused, but I hardly think anyone privy to military secrets would be spilling the beans on TMP. Of course, stranger things have happened, and happened here in fact. :D

Well judging by many of the answers I've seen given on TMP by "experts" there is little danger of a spy finding out any actual facts!

Now that large portions of quality posters are gone, tango is the only one that keeps the posting numbers up.

I don't think he baits on purpose, I think he doesn't really reads what he's posting.
He's posted stuff from extremely questionable pages, but I doubt he meant to post stuff from nazis.

@Devil Dice
The experts are on to him, you see, and feeding him misinformation. The jig is up Tango old boy!

If I could not block him out I would not visit TMP.

Deadhead,
the problem is, that the stiffle doens't work with eg the napoleonic board, just the front page.
Some of his messages/links aren't bad but it is just too much. I think that he doens't look at quality of the posts but just quantaty of messages (which is a shame really)

I hardly think anyone privy to military secrets would be spilling the beans on TMP. Of course, stranger things have happened, and happened here in fact. :D

I'd think so as well. But with the net in general many things get leaked !

Now that large portions of quality posters are gone, tango is the only one that keeps the posting numbers up.

Some wheat has gone with the chafe unfortunately.

TMP would be a poorer place without him. What possible harm does he do?

Bingo !

I love the idea that Tango might be a Licensed to Kill Agent of some hostile power.

We might disagree about the ownership of a bunch of islands off his coastline, esp since 1982. But, speaking as a citizen of an island that fought a war exactly one hundred years ago, to not be a UK subject, but has enjoyed amazingly intimate relations ever since (the two countries, not me I hasten to add, well not quite anyway)….I think I would risk him.

I think Putin's risks of influence go much, much, higher that TMP these days but that is politics. Heck, even he is only trying to restore the self respect the USSR once felt. Gorbachev and his minders once walked into a restaurant in Corfu, where we were eating. I immediately stood and my family did. The rest did not even notice, I swear the minders reached into the inside pockets of their jackets. He smiled at me, I smiled at him and we all sat down. My moment of history……bit like meeting Princess Di. Bye, she were a tall lass though

deadhead what island fought a war with the UK in 1919?

Ireland, I presume?

Surely did. My Mom always talked about the top end as the "Occupied Six Counties" as it meant so much where she grew up (Tipperary, staunch anti the Treaty agreed by Collins et al).

Classical, the moment any war of independence is done, what follows? A civil war. Defy you to argue that one.

The six counties left behind (at the majority decision to be fair) has been the cause of the "Troubles" ever since. That is actually a term that goes back much farther, but no-one seems to know that. The whole thing was not worth the life of one British Grenadier (to paraphrase Bomber Harris)

Tango's post? However daft. Someone now knows that Ireland fought a war of independence. They might read on and learn there was a civil war. They might research on and learn how many people were killed in the last decades of the last century as the insanity is still going on. Is that worth it?

Yes, to learn about it. Do I think it would be worth fighting Tango for those Islands off his homeland…well sort of, but being 66 helps and there is no way my three sons are going anyway. Oh yeah, sure then. As long as no-one gets hurt.

Now that large portions of quality posters are gone

Organ harvesting?

Industrial accidents?

Shark attack????

Gunny, you have created some fairly graphic mental images for me.

signed: 'Stumpy'

> So what's the issue?

The issue for me was the wall of posts each day moving other, more interesting, items off the main page in at most a day. Without that wall of posts I can go back a week or so just by scrolling the mouse.

I'm sort of torn. On one hand, it's frustrating to see something with an interesting title, and it's a Tango post with a blurb and a link and no real discussion to be had.

On the other though, a lot of the stuff he posts are things I wouldn't otherwise find and are often good reads. I go to a few sites which are little more than curated links to interesting articles about a topic, so Tango in a way fills that role here. I do sometimes wish it was consolidated somewhere so you didn't have forums where half the posts are Tango links.

You have made a big mistake Tom… now you have to move from Harford … because we are going for you!…

Ha!Ha!HA!….

Amicalement
Armand