| tsofian | 30 Oct 2019 4:36 p.m. PST |
Was the Grant/Lee ever looked at as a Kangaroo? If the 37mm turret was kept it would have been a very early form of Infantry Combat Vehicle |
| tsofian | 30 Oct 2019 4:36 p.m. PST |
Was the Grant/Lee ever looked at as a Kangaroo? If the 37mm turret was kept it would have been a very early form of Infantry Combat Vehicle |
| tsofian | 30 Oct 2019 4:37 p.m. PST |
Was the Grant/Lee ever looked at as a Kangaroo? If the 37mm turret was kept it would have been a very early form of Infantry Combat Vehicle |
| khanscom | 30 Oct 2019 5:38 p.m. PST |
Chamberlain and Ellis have no reference for a Grant Kangaroo; since Kangaroo conversions involved removal of the turret, the 37mm would have to be removed. I suppose that the 75mm sponson- mounted 75mm might be kept, but that would probably be counterproductive given the space required for gunners and ammunition. An ARV conversion required removal of both the 37mm and the 75mm. |
Mark 1  | 30 Oct 2019 6:21 p.m. PST |
The original 72 Kangaroos produced by/for the Canadian 3rd Infantry Division were built by "de-frocking" redundant M7 Priests.
The M7 was built on the M3 chassis. So in fact the Grant/Lee not only was LOOKED AT as a Kangaroo, but it WAS the original Kangaroo. Or at least it was the first 72 Kangaroos. After that, other hulls were chosen. -Mark
(aka: Mk 1) |
| Sir Able Brush | 31 Oct 2019 8:22 a.m. PST |
I wonder why these were not more widely adopted? Simply expense? |
| Martin Rapier | 31 Oct 2019 8:38 a.m. PST |
They had the same maintenance and fuel requirements as tanks, so we're a fairly expensive luxury. |
 Mserafin | 31 Oct 2019 1:52 p.m. PST |
The M7 was built on the M3 chassis. Interesting, since the one in the photo has Sherman-type VVS, not M3. Did they change that for the M7? |
| Garand | 31 Oct 2019 2:09 p.m. PST |
Having crawled around inside a Grant, I'm not sure if you just removed the 75mm cannon you could have made a Kangaroo. Pretty sure you would have to remove the turret too. But then, allegedly, the thing was crewed by 7 guys, if you pack them in tight… Damon. |
| Timbo W | 31 Oct 2019 3:24 p.m. PST |
The Canadian Ram tank was also based on the M3, and they certainly made plenty of Ram kangaroos. |
| Marc33594 | 01 Nov 2019 4:20 a.m. PST |
The original M7 was built on the M3 chassis with the return roller mounted centrally over the bogie truck. The design "evolved". For example the 3 piece bolted nose found on the M4. Of course early M4s had the M3 chassis. Eventually they switched over to the M4 chassis completely. In September 1943 the first of the M7B1s came out built on the M4A3 chassis. |
| chironex | 01 Nov 2019 5:47 a.m. PST |
Here is some information on the development and disadvantages of the Kangaroo:
YouTube link |
| Col Piron | 01 Nov 2019 10:25 a.m. PST |
Sherman Kangaroos iirc were all made using Sherman III hulls . Sherman Kangaroos loaded with NZ infantry in the Spring Offensive of 1945.
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