Tango01 | 24 Oct 2019 3:05 p.m. PST |
"The best response to President Erdogan's aggression in Syria is to recognize Turkey's century-old genocide of Christians and help the Republic of Armenia to shelter Assyrians, Syriacs, and Chaldeans who have been displaced by America's wayward policies in the Near East. It is true that Islamic regimes have been eroding indigenous Christian communities for over a thousand years through a political system that subjugates non-Muslims to Muslim rule. But the latest stage of Christianity's collapse in that part of the world must be laid at the feet of the West—and at the feet of Americans most of all…" Main page link Amicalement Armand |
Thresher01 | 24 Oct 2019 7:59 p.m. PST |
I agree with the helping Armenia bit. Why doesn't the rest of the globe share some of the blame for not stopping Turkey's invasion of Syria, and abuse of the Kurds? Everyone is always quick to blame America and Americans, but unwilling to do anything concrete to address the many, many global issues themselves. |
ochoin | 25 Oct 2019 6:17 a.m. PST |
Everyone is always quick to blame America and Americans, but unwilling to do anything concrete to address the many, many global issues themselves. In this case, US forces were on the spot & guaranteeing the safety of the Kurds. Without warning, they pull out & give the Turks implicit permission to attack. Who else could be blamed? Indeed, this was not the US's finest moment. |
Gaz0045 | 25 Oct 2019 6:54 a.m. PST |
Logically the blame still falls on those that are the aggressors…..the Turks. With or without permission Erdogan was going in…….. Turkish collusion with Daesh seems to have been forgotten too,Erdogans son was dealing in illicit oil from the Caliphate; easy transit of volunteers to and from Daesh controlled regions via the Turkish border and their transport hubs and alleged intelligence/know how exchanges to destabilise the Damascus regime. All for supporting Armenia and promoting Kurdish independence in the face of Turkish aggression. |
Thresher01 | 25 Oct 2019 9:45 a.m. PST |
No "implicit permission" was given by the USA, despite peddled fiction to the contrary. Perhaps some would have preferred an announced pull out schedule, like the last guy in charge provided? That makes no sense. Much better to do things without giving advance notice to our enemies (of course, that does mean even our allies don't get that either, which is a shame, but a necessary inconvenience in this era of leaks). We're talking a handful of guys being pulled out as well, not some overwhelming force, vs. the thousands/tens of thousands of troops on both sides arrayed against one another. Yep, ISIS and the Turks seem/seemed to be good friends, given their illegal oil dealings. |
USAFpilot | 25 Oct 2019 10:35 a.m. PST |
ochoin writes:
Who else could be blamed? Please tell me you're kidding. How about blaming the aggressor who is actually attacking the Kurds. And where does this new love for the Kurds suddenly come from? Where was the international community when Saddam was using chemical weapons on the Kurds? Where was the outcry when Turkey was bombing Kurdish positions during the middle of Operation NORTHERN WATCH in the 1990s? There is an entire history Kurds suffering. This is only to fill this weeks headlines from a feckless media. And spot on Thesher01. |
ochoin | 25 Oct 2019 10:57 a.m. PST |
Trust is such a fragile thing. By implicitly giving the Turks the go-ahead, any other allies of the US should question the strength & worth of their alliance. Never have I heard the media, politicians and many ordinary Australians look on this event & voice doubt over our ties to the US. Indeed, it seems you may well be foolish to expect anything other than Realpolitik from any Super power. This is a sad day. |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 25 Oct 2019 1:02 p.m. PST |
US commitment (or lack thereof) to a supposed ally may be subject to change every 4 years (election cycle), so this could be an outlier for all we know. |
Lion in the Stars | 25 Oct 2019 3:24 p.m. PST |
There are more Armenians living in the US than there are left in Armenia… |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 25 Oct 2019 7:31 p.m. PST |
I know quite a few, and they're not Kardashians. |
Tango01 | 26 Oct 2019 12:33 p.m. PST |
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