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Tango0109 Oct 2019 3:39 p.m. PST

…History

"THE AMERICAN CIVIL was entering its 18th month in September of 1862 when two colossal armies collided 60 miles northwest of Washington D.C. in a quiet corner of Maryland

On Sept. 13, 1862, 55,000 Rebel troops under the command of Robert E. Lee invaded the neutral border state in hopes that the presence of a large Southern army would compel residents there to join the rebellion.

More than 75,000 Union troops under the command of George McClellan intercepted the Confederates and forced a decisive clash just outside town of Sharpsburg near a small stream called the Antietam…"
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Personal logo McLaddie Supporting Member of TMP19 Oct 2019 6:14 p.m. PST

Uh, certainly a bell-ringer for the ACW, but 'the day' in Military History at Cannae was far more deadly. 80,000 dead Romans, not counting the stray soldier on Hannibal's side.

Tango0119 Oct 2019 9:34 p.m. PST

You are right my friend.


Borodino has his points too…


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Bowman23 Oct 2019 5:48 a.m. PST

Whilst Polybius is lauded as one of the more accurate ancient historians, I believe the numbers he presents are inflated. He says 86,400 Romans took part with about 75,000 killed and the rest captured. Livy brings all the numbers down a bit. Modern historians estimate losses at closer to 50,000 total.

These are still incredibly surprising losses considering the size of the armies and the primitive nature of warfare. They dwarf the losses at Antietam, which is still the deadliest single day for Americans, I believe.

The winner has to be Borodino wth casualties and captured amounting to about 90,000 men. But to me, this just makes Cannae more impressive as a defeat. The Napoleonic armies were much more vast that those of antiquity. Plus add the increased killing capability of gunpowder weapons to the mix.

Killing between 40,000 to 70,000 soldiers in one day with only swords, spears and arrows is surprisingly momentous. It also showed the indefatigable will and might of Rome. After facing disasters at Trebia, Trasimene and Cannae, they just raised more legions and fielded them in the next season. Of course they were fighting for their lives.

And casualties don't always tell the story. In the long run, Cannae was a disastrous and unfortunate blip in Roman history. The Battle of Zama cost the Carthaginian's between 34,000 to 40,000 men, but it effectively ended Carthage as a military and commercial power. And both France and Russia were still effective combatants, despite Borodino.

Tango0123 Oct 2019 9:08 p.m. PST

Thanks!

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