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Dukewilliam09 Sep 2019 7:35 p.m. PST

I *love* F&F.

After avoiding Regimental because of the added complexity due to the inclusion of troop quality and armament of each unit/battery, I see it's now part of the Brigade game as well. Sigh…

Were I to pull the trigger on 2nd Edition, where would I find the information now required to create scenarios, that is, I've read a fair amount of ACW histories but rarely have they included what each brigade was armed with.

Any suggestions? How do you guys tackle this problem.

Thanks,
Steve

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2019 8:08 p.m. PST

I am still playing the original version

I do play Regimental and enjoy some of the detail for smaller engagements – but not for larger ones

For detail i use the histories and scenarios for JR in Charge – which has most of the details needed

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2019 8:20 p.m. PST

The Fire & Fury team just released the Western Theater scenario book and it includes color game maps along with all of the labels for the units. The Eastern Theater scenario book will probably be coming out in the near future.

Rev Zoom10 Sep 2019 8:26 a.m. PST

Steve, histories usually note what regiments are armed with. If no mention is made, I would assume 58 cal rifles, although early in the war that is somewhat tenuous, especially Western battles. I would also second using all the JR scenarios extant which will list the armaments. You can find them especiall in Charge back issues (take a look at Wargame Vault). There are also some excellent battle studies (Shiloh, Antietam, Gettysburg, Chickamauga) which are detailed with scenarios, unit strengths, armaments and maps and such by Brad Butkovich – also to be found on Wargame Vault.

wrgmr110 Sep 2019 10:29 a.m. PST

If you can't find out what units were armed with, here's what we normally do:

Early war: Union 70% Rifled Muskets, 30% Smooth Bore.
Confederate 50% Rifled Muskets, 50% Smooth Bore

Late War: Union 95% Rifled Muskets, 5% Smooth Bore, (Iron Brigade)
Confederate: 85% Rifled Muskets, 15% Smooth Bore

These can be changed as you feel necessary for eastern or western scenarios or time of war.

Viper911 Supporting Member of TMP10 Sep 2019 10:50 a.m. PST

Hi Dukewilliam if you go to wargames vault their is a company called historic imagination they have different acw battles broken down into regimental level listing units, number of men,weapons,leaders and maps as well.

Stew art Supporting Member of TMP10 Sep 2019 11:03 a.m. PST

BFF 2ed also has army generator charts in the back for generating army lists.. kinda like wrgmr1 presents. You could always just use the armament table to randomly assign weapons to a brigade if the facts aren't known.

also in BFF, you really can't go wrong if you use rifled muskets or mixed muskets for most brigades.

Normal Guy Supporting Member of TMP10 Sep 2019 8:55 p.m. PST

The army generator charts provided in the Fire and Fury 2 rulebook is a wonderful tool to get appropriate percentages of weapons by year, nationality, and theater. It is quite a tool. Brad Butkovich's scenario books as mentioned above are also excellent. The guys who have posted before me are providing some excellent responses.

Normal Guy Supporting Member of TMP10 Sep 2019 9:00 p.m. PST

I should also mention that the Western Battles book for BFNF2 is also wonderful. If you have a copy of the first edition, it is not just a rehash of things. A number of additional battles have been added; several are even broken down into several scenarios. There is no much information included. In my mind, it is one of the best scenario books ever released regardless of period. It is worth buying whether or not you actually play the FNF rules. It is a gem.

Dukewilliam12 Sep 2019 6:38 p.m. PST

Thanks men, lots of help.

I will prolly stick to the original, it's the worlds best beer and pretzels game and did not need to gild the lily.

I only play historical actions so don't want to guess what a unit was armed with.

BTW, I would also suggest utilizing The Gamers Regimental games for info like this. I pulled their Gettysburg game and found info for several great scenarios.

Thanks again,
Steve

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