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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2019 1:24 p.m. PST

Well, it's getting more or less universal acclaim, words like epic masterpiece is being thrown around.

Personal logo Dentatus Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian05 Sep 2019 1:51 p.m. PST

Really?
I was in awe of the set/puppet craftsmanship, amazed by the visuals, impressed by the list of voice talent, but ye gods, the actual writing struck me as so shallow, so predictable, I actually gasped at how painfully cliche it all was.

"Epic masterpiece…"

Oh well. What do I know?

The Beast Rampant05 Sep 2019 1:53 p.m. PST

Odd- I watched the previews and was struck by how less "believable" the characters looked than the original. Everything just looks like its made of plastic to me.

Goober05 Sep 2019 3:06 p.m. PST

That's the problem with a switch from film to HD Digital. Celluloid was very forgiving.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2019 5:31 p.m. PST

I was very disappointed in the first episode that I watched. I don't know if I'll bother with any more. Did not have the charm the film had.

YogiBearMinis Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2019 7:04 p.m. PST

I am just happy these sorts of movies/shows are being made.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP06 Sep 2019 1:13 a.m. PST

That's the problem with a switch from film to HD Digital. Celluloid was very forgiving.

Actually film is far above HD, but most projectors, and TVs back then sucked.
If you film in 35mm, you can get fantastic detail. But when watching it on a standard movie project on a standard movie screen in 1983, most of the detail goes away.
I'm unsure if they've made a proper HD version of the original, but if they do, a lot of those details you might not want too see comes out. But usually HD versions are just based on a copy that looks ok, and not the original 35mm.
It will still look better then the VHS versions and the DVD versions(as often the DVD versions are just digital copies of the VHS)

But still not as good as it can look, just look at the HD version of TNG, they reedited the whole series based on the original 35mm film.
Now you get an almost 3d effect on some of the effect shots, the detail on the enterprise exterior is amazing.
However you now also see the imperfections of the makeup, you see were the body paint is, were the wigs start etc.

Patrick R06 Sep 2019 1:47 a.m. PST

There is a strong tendency to believe that since it's puppetry and fantasy it's mostly lighter fare for kids.

Especially when you compare it to an "adult" series like GoT full of violence, murder and hot sex.

GoT is in a way the 14-year old's thinks of "being an adult".

When you're 9 years old you will use your magic/superhero powers/giant robot/toy gun to defeat the bad guys. It's a black and white world.

At 14 you're in the "Edgelord" phase where everything you do in your imagination has to be extreme/transgressive/rebellious and you have to look badass doing it.

I'm not saying that the Dark Crystal is Literature Nobel Prize material, but it's very adult in its writing and it's the kind of writing you easily dismiss if your understanding isn't about that of a 14-year old edgelord, as sadly is the case in most "adult" media today.

DCAOR is very human (sic) in its writing. In GoT everyone is an emotional cripple with anything resembling positive emotions being a mere setup for more misery down the line.

People complain that it's all very "touchy feely" saccarine stuff, but look at the aftermath of a disaster or significant emotional event. People need that hug, they need comforting, they are not stoic badasses with the ability to become only stronger the more trauma they accumulate. When you see the characters in the series hug it's genuine emotion, something you don't see often in media these days.

And the writing is very subtle, there are layers to the story. A good example is the way the Gelflings end up treating the Podlings. Prodded by the Skeksis suggestion that they are helpless and stupid they begin to treat them as such, causing great resentment with the Podlings who begin to resist, leading the Gelflings to believe they are incorrigible and need extra supervision, creating more resentment … That's social engineering, creating rifts in a society that used to be inclusive by creating an "us vs them" situation. The Gelflings despise the Podlings for being stupid, the Podlings resent Gelflings for treating them as if they were too stupid to take care of themselves. Divide and conquer.

The Skeksis are able to maintain the illusion of being wise and beneficial even when most people are starting to put question marks to certain things. We see characters surrender to that idea despite evidence to the contrary, actively supporting evil while at the same time rationalizing it to themselves they are doing it for the greater good. "Our rulers are good and wise, what may look evil to some is merely part of a greater picture we cannot see, and we must remain true to that vision no matter what for our leaders are good and wise and cannot make mistakes or cause evil and if they do, it's only going to hurt a minority, who probably deserve it anyway …"

It's not perfect, but it's incredibly well-made, with a rich and detailed world and some really amazing character work.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP06 Sep 2019 5:42 a.m. PST

I've only watched the first episode, it was a little slow, but it's just the intro.
This is more Tolkien than RR Martin.
In fact the way the world was shown, the beauty of the world and the blend of practical and CGI was very much in the style of peter Jackson's lotr.

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