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15mm and 28mm Fanatik25 Aug 2019 2:15 p.m. PST

A new non-Forgeworld edition of the air-to-air combat game "Aeronautica Imperialis" is coming.

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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP25 Aug 2019 3:51 p.m. PST

Damn you GW. Just when I've tired of your shenanigans.


Good on them for doing plastic. I'm still assuming the starter box is gonna be $150 USD-$200.

Looks like I'll have to find another project around the house to eliminate.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP25 Aug 2019 3:58 p.m. PST

I posted it on the 6mm SF boards … as it is 6mm … er … 8mm … ??? TMP link

Personal logo Tacitus Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2019 11:13 a.m. PST

I love new games and I love GW, but this seems a little late to the dogfight genre, no?

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2019 3:05 p.m. PST

Tacitus, the original game came out back in 2007. This is the remake, or 2nd edition.

Forgeworld supported it for a number of years then pulled all its products from its website like most specialist games.

So the original game came out before most of the current popular dogfighting games.

I'm sure many 40k fans will say too little too late but I'm hyped by it cause my nephews never got to play the old version.

I applaud 40k in this case especially for making these plastic instead of metal or resin which will probably allow me to buy twice as many planes.

The H Man26 Aug 2019 5:33 p.m. PST

I know the reason is because they started life as 6mm Epic metal, but hasn't GW ever looked at a real airplane? Even the 40k versions look like clunky boxes with turbines.

Just an observation.

Pictors Studio26 Aug 2019 9:21 p.m. PST

Very nice looking game. If it scales to AT I'll probably be getting it to work with that or to at least use the planes as terrain in games of AT.

Personal logo Tacitus Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2019 11:30 p.m. PST

Ah. Well cool!

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2019 5:49 p.m. PST

I'd have to say, I think this bodes well for a BFG redue. Maybe even a 4th Ed. of Space Hulk if we're lucky.

emckinney31 Aug 2019 4:58 p.m. PST

Starter box is only $90 USD!

Of course, you will easily add hundreds to that.

The 2nd edition is almost identical to the first, except that it's hex-based. Even the stats of the individual aircraft are all but identical.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik31 Aug 2019 6:48 p.m. PST

The Imperial Thunderbolts look very "WWII-ish" resembling the German Messerschmitt ME-109 fighters (down to the framed canopy with flat panes), while the Ork Scrapjets are obviously based on Soviet early Cold War jets like the MiG-15.

I must say I like 'em.

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The H Man01 Sep 2019 3:17 a.m. PST

Yeah…, nah.

Maybe that's where the ideas came from, but at least the two you show are aerodynamic. Show me a thick metal clunker that actually flies.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2019 8:23 p.m. PST

The Ork planes have a very Mig-15/ F-86/ Me-262 look which I dig very much. The Thunderbolt took a bit longer for me to get into. But I'm good with all the Imperial planes now.

Hopefully Chaos & Eldar are right around the corner.

ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa05 Sep 2019 10:40 a.m. PST

Surprised they re-released Aeronautica as opposed to say BFG (for which secondary market prices are still frankly mental and a market further served by a fair number of small manufactures churning out grimdark starships…) But I'm guessing it sits well with the whole 'tabletop miniatures game'-thing.

Pictors Studio06 Sep 2019 2:23 p.m. PST

I'm surprised that they haven't re-released BFG yet too. This looks like a relatively small release and, if the scale is right, matches the Titanicus stuff. That might be why it got the green light.

I've always thought the Ork planes looked cool. Just hobbled together from what they had to make it look something like what the other guys were flying. Takes off and flies because, like all other ork tech, it just does.

The Imperial planes, like everything else imperial, mostly looks like they were built to take punishment. I'm sure that with their anti-grav tech, along with the powerful looking engines they are actually quite maneuverable despite their tank-like appearance.

It isn't something I'll be buying this weekend but it is on the list.

alpha3six08 Sep 2019 11:54 a.m. PST

These new planes are noticeably larger than the old IA planes, and make the AT scale Titans look small. GW has finally said that reavers are 24 meters tall, and warlords are 35 meters tall. Compared to modern day aircraft, Titans are not really that big.

emckinney10 Sep 2019 9:34 a.m. PST

Except that they're much more three-dimensional (depth of the "chest." Someone should do Archimedean displacement tests on all the models.

emckinney10 Sep 2019 9:40 a.m. PST

"Surprised they re-released Aeronautica as opposed to say BFG"

There's some immediate cross-over potential with AT. You can use your Titans as ground targets in AI, and your aircraft can show up in AT with a "zoom in, take flak, shoot, zoom out" sequence.

You could even play AT on a hex-map, ignore the grid for the Titans, and then play a complete game of AI after one of the turns! Bother games are short enough that this is reasonable in a full afternoon.

emckinney10 Sep 2019 9:43 a.m. PST

Yes, the AI weapons so far are 40K scale, but the bombers sure look big enough to carry anti-Titan weapons. And they already carry a few weapons that could hurt knights.

Centurio Prime11 Sep 2019 5:39 a.m. PST

I bought the game and I'm loving it. The models are beautiful and are in scale with Adeptus Titanicus.

Pictors Studio15 Sep 2019 8:18 a.m. PST

Yeah, they just confirmed that they are in scale with AT, both games are 1/4 size of 40K. So humans in both games are 6mm and Space Marines are 8mm.

That will make making terrain for AI super easy as I'll already have a lot of it for AT.

Which makes it that much harder to resist.

I guess they are working on other factions already too.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2019 9:44 a.m. PST

Yes, 3 other factions already confirmed (by GW) and in production. "In production" apparently means "to be released over the following year".

These 3 factions will apparently release regardless of how sales are doing.

Anything beyond those 3 factions would apparently depend on sales.

As to bets on those 3 factions, Eldar and Chaos would seem to be a safe bet. The third would be a wild card between Tau and Space Marines w/ Dark Eldar as a long shot.

Either way I'm pretty sure we'll get 1 new race before January but I'll be happy just to get an Imperial Lightning and an Ork Heavy Bomber (due in November ).

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