"How Cuba Taught Venezuela To Crush Any Dissent In" Topic

…The Military.

"Imposing surveillance, fear and repression, Cuba helped Venezuela revamp its armed forces and military intelligence service. Reuters reveals how two agreements, undisclosed since 2008, let Havana remake Venezuela's security apparatus.

In December 2007, Venezuela's Hugo Chávez suffered his first defeat at the polls. Although still wildly popular among the working class that had propelled him to power nearly a decade earlier, voters rejected a referendum that would have enabled him to run for re-election repeatedly.

Stung, Chávez turned to a close confidant, according to three former advisors: Fidel Castro. The aging Cuban leader had mentored Chávez years before the Venezuelan became president, when he was still best known for leading a failed coup…"
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Cuba may have taught Chavez and his successor Maduro on how to stay in power, but they have also helped in the destruction of the very economy that permitted Venezuela to provide aid and assistance to Cuba. Rationing has been re-introduced in Cuba ….

Cuba starts widespread rationing of food and other basics
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Armand

Ah, the joys and bounty that is created by the communist/socialist systems is truly astounding.

No wonder China embraced capitalism so fervently.

A cautionary tale for others to note.

Oh yeah. Cuba thrived in every way before socialism came to the island))) And this is in the absence of all sanctions.
And how long have communists been removed from power in China? Socialism and a market economy combination is quite possible. Let us recall Yugoslavia, for example, or the period of the New Economic Policy in the USSR.
Socialism is different, as is capitalism. Tell me about the capitalist paradise in Mexico, for example)))

With all the corruption and other prolbems Cuba was still better off than under Fidel and his version of corruption and communism. Mexico is more socialist than capitalist.

"Mexico is more socialist than capitalist".

The Narco Terrorists from Mexico and points southward seem to have embraced capitalism with abandon, and some have built billion dollar enterprises strong enough to pay off politicians, judges, the police, and much of the military.

I'm not in favor of them, or that, but it is an interesting comparison.

"And how long have communists been removed from power in China?".

They haven't. According to their president for life, Xi, the communist party is alive and well, and still in charge.

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Amicalement
Armand

They haven't. According to their president for life, Xi, the communist party is alive and well, and still in charge.

I'm not sure how communist the Chinese Communist Party is anymore.

I hope you are right and they don't massacre the pro-democracy protesters.

I still see communism as the biggest nastiest corporation that ever existed made all the worse by not having to answer to anyone.

Old dispute. Moreover, the participants are still the same))) I believe that communism has no alternative, but this is a matter of the distant future. But socialism is close))) In which form – it is not yet clear.

'capitalism gone mad'
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I wonder what kind of standard of living would be in Cuba under Batista if she had also been under sanctions for half a century?)))
It seems to me that someone is simply not ready to see the fair competition between the two economic systems)))

When the man who makes the cigars can not afford to smoke one, there is something fundamentally wrong with your economic system. iIf he complains about it and ends up in a gulag then there is something wrong with your system of government.

Dictatorship and repression are very bad. But didn't there happen to be right-wing dictatorships in Latin America, supported by the USA? And were there unreasonable repressions there? Perhaps well-being and prosperity for the majority of the population has come everywhere?

Why is it that it is the capitalist countries that have the wherewithal to levy sanctions to begin with ??????
If Communism was so good they would be the one's inforcing sanctions it seems?