| Tango01 | 21 Aug 2019 8:54 p.m. PST |
…Slavery in the U.S. Damages Our Understanding of American History. "In 1619, "20. and odd Negroes" arrived off the coast of Virginia, where they were "bought for victualle" by labor-hungry English colonists. The story of these captive Africans has set the stage for countless scholars and teachers interested in telling the story of slavery in English North America. Unfortunately, 1619 is not the best place to begin a meaningful inquiry into the history of African peoples in America. Certainly, there is a story to be told that begins in 1619, but it is neither well-suited to help us understand slavery as an institution nor to help us better grasp the complicated place of African peoples in the early modern Atlantic world. For too long, the focus on 1619 has led the general public and scholars alike to ignore more important issues and, worse, to silently accept unquestioned assumptions that continue to impact us in remarkably consequential ways. As a historical signifier, 1619 may be more insidious than instructive…."
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| Bede19002 | 22 Aug 2019 4:48 a.m. PST |
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| Delbruck | 22 Aug 2019 5:26 a.m. PST |
The NYT 1619 project is not serious historical analysis, its political propaganda. Miniature wargames and sports used to be a place of escape.
Personally, I prefer to KEEP IT THAT WAY. |
 StoneMtnMinis  | 22 Aug 2019 5:57 a.m. PST |
@ Delbruck  |
| Virginia Tory | 22 Aug 2019 7:33 a.m. PST |
It's total rubbish. Completely misrepresents the early history of America and as Delbruck points out, it's all about political propaganda masquerading as history. |
GildasFacit  | 22 Aug 2019 9:08 a.m. PST |
History has been political propaganda since Ceasar's day, that doesn't always make it untrue or rubbish. Some history tells stories that people just don't want to hear, even if it is true, many will prefer myth to history – you are not going to stop that ! |
| Tango01 | 22 Aug 2019 11:29 a.m. PST |
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| DJCoaltrain | 22 Aug 2019 1:40 p.m. PST |
One person's Luciano Pavarotti is another person's Tiny Tim. Jus sayin.  |
| corzin | 23 Aug 2019 3:31 a.m. PST |
one of the things that always gets me… "Colonial Florida" rarely counts as part of "Colonial United States" |
| Garde de Paris | 23 Aug 2019 3:52 a.m. PST |
Am I wrong, or didn't Florida become part of the US after the War of 1812? I do recall reading of Andy Jackson "invading" Florida under the Spanish DURING the war. GdeP |
| 42flanker | 23 Aug 2019 8:37 a.m. PST |
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| corzin | 23 Aug 2019 1:21 p.m. PST |
no what i mean…that whenever we talk about first and oldest things in the US…it rarely includes the spanish much less the indian parts of our country… the first slaves weren't brought to america in 1619. though at least this article says "English North America"… except then what about bermuda…err nevermind. in some ways that was the whole point of the article…1619 is just a semirandom number to focus on |
| Virginia Tory | 28 Aug 2019 9:51 a.m. PST |
"History has been political propaganda since Ceasar's day, that doesn't always make it untrue or rubbish." It does in this case. |
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