"Warcry vs Mordheim" Topic

Can someone give me an overview of how Warcry differs from Mordheim?

First issue is that Warcry is not a skirmish-scaled down version of AoS, like Mordheim was of Warhammer. Instead it is it's own, simpler and cleaner, system designed for small skirmish games from the ground up.

Thanks, Yogi

Does it use the standard GW ability array (Weapon Skill Ballistic Skill, Strength, Toughness)?

Nope, but it does use some of that stuff.

Instead of rolling to hit and then to wound it is all one S vs. T roll so no ballistic skill or weapon skill.

The GW intro videos did a pretty good job of going over the basics. Got enough of a feel thst it saved me $150. USD

I'll just stick with AoS skirmish or Song of Blades and Heroes.

For me one of the attractions of Mordheim was that it WAS the same as Warhammer and didn't require me to learn another system…

Mordheim had a very competetive campaign system where a warband that did very well could become very powerful, especially against less experienced warbands. Warcry levels the playing field a little better but still gives your warband a chance to expand. They are very different games, and I love them both for different reasons. Setting is key to each, and each setting gives the game a different flavour.

Warcry is a very tight, well-designed skirmish game. Mordheim feels a little dated in comparison. Both are fun to play. I recommend finding someone to demo Warcry for you before you dive in. As with most GW games, cost is a factor. You can buy the book and one box of guys for under $100 USD at most places and get to playing. Rules for Mordheim are free online (fan-supported). Figures would be proxies or ebay finds.

Just get a copy of Frostgrave published by Osprey with multi-part plastic lines by Northstar Military Figures.

I played Mordheim a bit with two different gaming groups. I had a lot of fun and loved the GW background at the time, but rules/balance had issues.

In some ways Frostgrave is more simple and elegant, in other more comprehensive. Especially if you like spell slinging, Frostgrave is superior.

A reminder that you can use any miniatures for Frostgrave. The Nothstar stuff isn't bad as plastics go. Not nuch progression for non-wizards in Frostgrave. I would suggest Rangers of Shadow Deep. It has leveling for non-character companions but it is a cooperative rather than adversarial system.

Rangers of Shadow Deep is very small level story-driven skirmish made for solo and co-op play; I love it, but it yields a very different kind of experience.

Frostgrave is as if Mordheim had simpler (and better) basic mechanics coupled with a crazy amount of spell-casting. I enjoy it much more and the expansions are useful and solid. Unlike GW, the 2nd ed Frostgrave coming out this month will be fully compatable with EVERY expansion book produced, so no new edition cash-grabs!