Editor in Chief Bill | 16 Aug 2019 6:17 p.m. PST |
With Flames of War so popular, is FoW basing becoming the standard basing that other WWII rulesets will conform to? |
PK Guy Brent | 16 Aug 2019 6:45 p.m. PST |
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evbates | 16 Aug 2019 6:49 p.m. PST |
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BrianW | 16 Aug 2019 6:55 p.m. PST |
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Narratio | 16 Aug 2019 6:57 p.m. PST |
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D6 Junkie | 16 Aug 2019 7:06 p.m. PST |
Yes,at least for me. Not changing now |
Saber6 | 16 Aug 2019 7:48 p.m. PST |
sort of? Not re-basing but a lot of new is on FoW size bases |
Pictors Studio | 16 Aug 2019 7:53 p.m. PST |
Pretty much. IT is how my WWII stuff is based in 15mm and, like D6 Junkie said, I'm not changing it now either. Since it was such a popular system and there is so much of it out there it would be somewhat foolish for 15mm rules writers to not go for a similar basing scheme if they want their rules to sell. So it kind of, by default, becomes the new basing system for 15mm WWII |
bruntonboy | 16 Aug 2019 8:07 p.m. PST |
No but ww2 sets of rules will probably accommodate those sizes. Myself I haven't gone that way as I don't play fow. Besides I don't like that basing system anyway. |
irishserb | 16 Aug 2019 8:17 p.m. PST |
So popular? I assumed that it was fading, the three shops that I visit have all stopped carrying it. And no (with respect to basing). |
jdginaz | 16 Aug 2019 8:45 p.m. PST |
Not in the least, no one I game WWII with uses it. |
Doctor X | 16 Aug 2019 11:20 p.m. PST |
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WARGAMESBUFF | 16 Aug 2019 11:21 p.m. PST |
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Night Owl III | 16 Aug 2019 11:36 p.m. PST |
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shaun from s and s models | 17 Aug 2019 2:19 a.m. PST |
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Steamingdave2 | 17 Aug 2019 2:36 a.m. PST |
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robert piepenbrink | 17 Aug 2019 3:51 a.m. PST |
In 15mm. But then I'm giving up 15mm. |
MajorB | 17 Aug 2019 4:08 a.m. PST |
Standard? There was a standard? |
Bezmozgu7 | 17 Aug 2019 4:55 a.m. PST |
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Tgunner | 17 Aug 2019 5:02 a.m. PST |
They are good rules actually, and yes, they are becoming A standard and a fairly common one. I'm not a big fan of multi-miniature basing but I get why people do it (it would take forever to move several platoons- I get it). This is the standard that I use now because I play and honestly I WON'T rebase my collection to play another game. So if you want my money, and lots of other players for that matter, and insist on communal bases then yeah, you should allow for the FoW basing convention. |
Joes Shop | 17 Aug 2019 5:18 a.m. PST |
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All Sir Garnett | 17 Aug 2019 5:56 a.m. PST |
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TMPWargamerabbit | 17 Aug 2019 5:58 a.m. PST |
Nope. My Ver3.0 MRB FOW gaming uses 20mm miniatures, so by default the basing is different for the infantry / gun teams Should note I never went over to Ver4.0 MRB version, like many FOW seasoned gamers in my area. |
Brownand | 17 Aug 2019 7:26 a.m. PST |
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jdpintex | 17 Aug 2019 8:18 a.m. PST |
No, all my 15mm is on 1" square bases for the infantry |
Ostroc | 17 Aug 2019 8:30 a.m. PST |
They are not even standard within their own rules, with base sizes for some types varying from edition to edition and from army list to army list. Standard no, useful yes |
deephorse | 17 Aug 2019 9:20 a.m. PST |
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FlyXwire | 17 Aug 2019 12:00 p.m. PST |
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Unlucky General | 17 Aug 2019 12:17 p.m. PST |
I can't speak for the rules as I've never played them but I've long looked at many, many images and seen them close up – and I really don't like the infantry basing. Whilst I prefer two or more figures to a base, it's a compromise over utility. WWII terrain can be cluttered and big bases just don;t work visually in my view. Entrenchments and bunkers become problematic for anything but single bases or minimalist multiples. They are way too spaced out. |
Lee494 | 17 Aug 2019 2:24 p.m. PST |
No. However there is a broader question. What size basing will New Rules require? I know all the rules I've published and the 3 New sets I'm coming out with this year will accommodate ANY basing the gamer wants to use. So if you have tons of FoW based minis you can use them without ANY changes with my rules. I think required basing sizes for WWII and beyond are a thing of the past. For earlier periods, Napoleonics, Mideival and Ancients basing is more important but those eras are outside the scope of the OPs question. Cheers! |
Fried Flintstone | 17 Aug 2019 4:35 p.m. PST |
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Wargamer Blue | 17 Aug 2019 6:01 p.m. PST |
No. I have my Flames armies based for Flames, but I also have a lot of my 15mm WWII armies based on 30x30 bases which I use for other rules. |
14th NJ Vol | 19 Aug 2019 4:04 p.m. PST |
No. FOW appears to be slowing down here. |
forSCIENCE | 20 Aug 2019 9:08 a.m. PST |
No, I chose a different route for flexibility and personal taste. I have regular infantry individually based on #10 washers, weapons teams (LMGs, PIATs, panzershrecks, etc) together on larger 1/4" fender washers, and officers or NCOs on regular 1/4" washers. Gun crews are on #8 washers. I can then group teams or platoons on flexible refrigerator magnets of different size and shape, allowing to create scout teams or whatever as needed, and remove individual figures to account for casualties. Entrenched/dug in teams will be covered by some 15mm Old Glory foxhole & slit trench figures I acquired recently. I use my 15mm stuff for Chain of Command, but I've got magnets cut to approximately the same sizes as FoW bases if I ever decide to get back into that. |
TSD101 | 20 Aug 2019 6:33 p.m. PST |
Standard for me at least. I am NOT rebasing hundreds of 15mm figures so I won't play a ruleset where rebasing would be required. |
Martin Rapier | 21 Aug 2019 3:27 a.m. PST |
No. Although I can understand why people who have based for FOW don't want to change. Personally I find 30x30 works for most things, including Spearhead, Command Decision, Rapid Fire, Crossfire, BKC etc and yes, it works for FOW too. |
Jeffers | 21 Aug 2019 10:44 a.m. PST |
Nope. A while ago I did something similar to forSCIENCE above and worked out basing systems for all my stuff depending on period. If I cannot adjust a set of rules to fit, I will just ditch the rules. Of course, I'm happy with what I have now so the situation is unlikely to arise! |
Bowman | 22 Aug 2019 1:11 p.m. PST |
Personally I find 30x30 works for most things, including Spearhead, Command Decision, Rapid Fire, Crossfire, BKC etc and yes, it works for FOW too. Then surely the FOW bases would work for them too? |