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baxterj11 Aug 2019 10:38 p.m. PST

I saw this last night and thought it very good. Without knowing the battle in any detail at all, the military side look pretty good. Comments from others more knowledgable than me?

Wargamer Blue12 Aug 2019 12:40 a.m. PST

I watched it. Started off a bit slow but I enjoyed the battle. I had a tear in my eye at the end. Not one person left the cinema until the end of I was only 19.

baxterj12 Aug 2019 12:46 a.m. PST

Yes, that was a moving way to finish

Legion 412 Aug 2019 6:10 a.m. PST

I don't see a link ?

I do remember as an Inf Cdr, '79-'90, We were taught:

Danger Close was within 300m for FA, Mortars.

600m for CAS.

You'd probably only call it in on your own position if you were getting completely overrun. That is not doctrine … just talk among the troops, etc. And it did occur in many conflicts of the 20th Century according to the historical record, etc.

Of course probably if you did many of your unit would be KIA'd/WIA'd. But it would be a desperation move. Maybe your last move … frown

Skarper12 Aug 2019 9:15 p.m. PST

A trade off. If your own men are in trenches/bunkers/foxholes are your enemy are in the open they will lose more and you could prevent a lot of losses due to being overrun.

That is when units get wiped out.

Something I read years ago in someone's memoirs is that NVA/PAVN forces took to assaulting through their own supporting fire – since it was less dangerous than letting the US units open up at point blank range with small arms.

Ruthless but a logical extension.

Wolfshanza12 Aug 2019 10:04 p.m. PST

The catch phrase we had for it (in CAP) was "VT on me". You had them fire variable time (airburst) and NOT HE. As was mentioned earlier, you were in bunkers and such. I never had to use it, thank God :)

Legion 413 Aug 2019 6:19 a.m. PST

The VC/NVA used a technique/tactic referred to as "hugging the belt". By closing in very close to the US troops, the US would be reluctant to use all it's fire support. As the US didn't want to kill it's own troops. But as we know from the historical record, etc. At times units did call-in support Danger Close[or closer!]. Even today I've heard of cases in A'stan.

A trade off. If your own men are in trenches/bunkers/foxholes are your enemy are in the open they will lose more and you could prevent a lot of losses due to being overrun.

If you are in bunkers, trenches, etc., your survival is increased. As we know regardless of where the incoming is coming from. I.e. Ours' or theirs'. But calling in supporting fires on your own position is not what you want to do but what you have to do, I'd think …

And Yes, VT was a standard when we trained to call-for- fire.

I never had to use it, thank God :)
Yes … very much so ! And thank you for your service Wolfshanza. thumbs up

Blutarski14 Aug 2019 4:59 p.m. PST

Legion 4 wrote – "And thank you for your service Wolfshanza. thumbs up"

A Big Ditto from me – drafted in May 67, but rejected on health grounds. I figured I would have arrived in VN with official FNG status right around the time of Tet.

The Good Lord works in strange ways …..


Legion 415 Aug 2019 5:42 a.m. PST

I graduated High School in '75. But I probably would have followed my same path in life. If I was born a little earlier. My name would probably be on the Wall … May they RIP …

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