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20 Jul 2019 5:55 a.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

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von Winterfeldt20 Jul 2019 1:06 a.m. PST

Wonderfully sculpted miniatures from AB, from the French Revolution rang, here about 1792 – 1800.
I love to paint 18 mm, due to the lack of high quality miniatures – about my preferred periods of interest – I am forced to paint 28 mm as well.
A pity that due to the lack of demand – seemingly – those Revolutionary ranges don't take off, despite, in my view much more spectacular in uniforms and appearance that the late Napoleonic period.
AB took great paints to sculpt even obscure details like the ramrod wrapped in the securing strap on the cartridge pouch.
The lace on the saddle cloth as well as the details on the sabretache have to be painted free hand. Though I did not paint those miniatures in the AB preferred style – I hopefully did not bring discredit to them.
Though the uniform is not that spectacular – this unit took part in all major events of the Revolutionary wars, as well as in the notorious murdering of French peace emissaries at Rastatt 1799

Redcurrant20 Jul 2019 1:16 a.m. PST

Excellent sculpts, and exquisite painting.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP20 Jul 2019 1:59 a.m. PST

I wonder how the "AB preferred style" could possibly surpass these.

I have said before that your work is instantly recognisable, as with Francesco T or Rafa. That dappled grey, the lace on the shabraques, the shading on the harness, the brasswork on the crossbelts……wonderful.

That grey………I'll save that picture!

John de Terre Neuve20 Jul 2019 2:11 a.m. PST

indeed very nicely done

Garde de Paris20 Jul 2019 4:41 a.m. PST

When I got out of the Army in December, 1957, I found a phone number for the Miniature Figure Collectors of America, in Philadelphia. I joined.

No wargamers at that time. I bought figures by John Fleming Scheid (of Easton, PA); Imrie/Risley; and then Stadden. Painted some merely for shelf display.

But the quality of other' painting soon overwhelmed me. I could not accept the need for shadow and highlight on a 54mm figure (or any 3 dimensional figure for that matter), remained decidedly Old School to this day. So I abandoned individual figure painting, 54mm. I just could not compete!

Now I see these figures, and it looks like time to give up on 15mm, 18mm, 20mm, 25mm, 28mm and my beloved 30's!!!

These are truly amazing. As an aside, were the horses of that era actually that small? Also, I have read that hussar mounts were often that varied in color – the "paints" or "pintos" and other light colors also common.

GdeP

von Winterfeldt20 Jul 2019 5:00 a.m. PST

one of the reasons to chose AB – the horses and size of it, alas in 28 mm it is usually dwarfs on elephants

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Franck20 Jul 2019 5:45 a.m. PST

Wow ! Truly excellent painting !

Garde de Paris20 Jul 2019 7:52 a.m. PST

Do they have larger horses for Cuirassiers, as in the early Prussian and Austrian services?

I once found a source for AB horses alone, and mounted a couple dozen Prussian Cuirassiers from Old Glory 15's. Looked great it you looked from 3 feet or more away (My "natural" painting).

GdeP

Garde de Paris20 Jul 2019 7:54 a.m. PST

By the way, is that the actual color of the dolman and pelisse? Looks like a modern camouflage color.

May I hijack the thread, and suggest British 5th Foot "Gosling Green?"

GdeP

Fredloan20 Jul 2019 9:59 a.m. PST

Beautiful paint jobs

Timmo uk20 Jul 2019 10:53 a.m. PST

Your horses are wonderfully painted.

Sheepman196120 Jul 2019 11:02 a.m. PST

Very, very nice.
Dave.

alexkalinin20 Jul 2019 11:26 a.m. PST

Amazing work! Thanks for posting.

Erzherzog Johann20 Jul 2019 4:57 p.m. PST

Garde de Paris:

"By the way, is that the actual color of the dolman and pelisse? Looks like a modern camouflage color."

The parrot-green worn by the 4th Hussars (Hessen Homburg) and 8th (Kienmayer) has traditionally been interpreted as a nice bright pretty green but is more correctly a kind of vomit green/yellow. So I'd say that yes, that is the actual colour :-/
Cheers,
John

Garde de Paris20 Jul 2019 7:30 p.m. PST

Thanks, John! I have some Old Glory Hungarian hussars, 7Y, set aside to paint, and I may try to duplicate this colod!

GdeP

von Winterfeldt20 Jul 2019 11:38 p.m. PST

the colour is difficult to judge, though the prints by Klein are first class I could offer others with more vivid colours.

Lambert Supporting Member of TMP21 Jul 2019 4:32 a.m. PST

Staggeringly good painting, Von W. Just incredible, especially at that scale.

Knob21 Jul 2019 7:16 a.m. PST

Bravo! very well painted

Personal logo Il Granatiere Supporting Member of TMP26 Jul 2019 11:38 a.m. PST

So when you decide to skip to the napoleonic and you order your first AB figures, you see his work and you think…. I will not cope….

SHaT198430 Jan 2021 7:46 p.m. PST

Clearly I missed this post in my early days of viewing and it has only just come up as I research a little more the department of the Grenzers.

I'm intrigued vW about the hue of blue used- quite light (at least highlights)- was this only a revolutiona period shade or do you believe they'd be wearing them differently a decade later?
I have to do the same unit @Austerlitz in WF charging hussars mode, and my first draft of 6 are in a darker blue shade, but I'd love to emulate these ones.
And, there appears a green 'wash' over the black feathers of the plumes. Was this intentional or could it be photographic transmutation (colour shift)?
Many thanks,
davew ==

jabbadabbadan30 Jan 2021 8:21 p.m. PST

Superb figures and painting.

Erzherzog Johann30 Jan 2021 10:56 p.m. PST

Von Winterfeldt wrote that "the [Parrot green] colour is difficult to judge, though the prints by Klein are first class I could offer others with more vivid colours".

I'm sure many of us, including me, would love to see those. I'm not likely to paint the 4th or 8th Hussars any time soon but I may be painting IR10, which had facings in that colour.

Cheers,
John

SHaT198431 Jan 2021 3:10 a.m. PST

Hi John,
Well I'll keep my Hussaren #4 Hessen-Homburg in the colours they are, which is a darker parrot (comes from owning many when I was younger); and being 16 of them plus supernumaries they are fixed.

But it's the Szeckler (akak Grenzer) Hussaren that interest me more now per vW offering here.
cheers dave

von Winterfeldt31 Jan 2021 9:28 a.m. PST

being busy elsewhere,so alas only on the quick.
Thanks for the interest.

Parrot green can be seen in the facing charts so often displayed it is the notorious paperl grün.

As for the Szekler – J just used dark blue – then the highlights of course look like, but I like light – to give good contrast – especially in smaller scale.

My Szekler look pretty much dark blue to me.

Green wash for the plumes, no.

SHaT198431 Jan 2021 2:51 p.m. PST

Many thanks HK, gold star I'll continue as I do my French, subtle highlights on such wonderfully contoured Foundry figures. The balance of the unit was purchased before Christmas so was planned ahead.

Yours have inspired me to bring them up in the order of 'Things to Complete' projects !
regards davew cup

ferg98101 Feb 2021 1:42 p.m. PST

Spectacular horses.

Great painting of these figures. Simply amazing.

historygamer01 Feb 2021 4:56 p.m. PST

Awesome.

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