Tango01 | 19 Jun 2019 10:16 p.m. PST |
… toward U.S. forces in Djibouti, intel chief says. "The Chinese military is guilty of "irresponsible actions" toward American forces stationed at Djibouti's Camp Lemonnier on the Horn of Africa, a senior U.S. military intelligence officer said. The home of U.S. military operations in the region and the biggest U.S. base on the continent, Camp Lemonnier is near the People's Liberation Army's first overseas military base, and the proximity has been a continuing source of tension…" Main page link Amicalement Armand |
Thresher01 | 19 Jun 2019 11:59 p.m. PST |
Interesting, and stupid. Firing lasers at our pilots should be treated as an attack on them, and met with overwhelming force to eliminate those doing that. Intruders should be shot on sight. Problems solved. |
skipper John | 20 Jun 2019 6:03 a.m. PST |
I agree Thresher, take no prisoners! |
cloudcaptain | 20 Jun 2019 6:36 a.m. PST |
We should shine our lasers back at them: link |
Mkultra99 | 20 Jun 2019 7:18 a.m. PST |
Lots of reason for us to be in Djibouti.. like.. uh.. well there is uh.. that.. hm.. uh thing.. and those uhm.. hm. So let's start a war with China for all those things… seems sensible. Raise your hand if you want your son or grandson to die in such a war. |
Tango01 | 20 Jun 2019 11:33 a.m. PST |
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PrivateSnafu | 20 Jun 2019 2:19 p.m. PST |
but aren't we there for all the booty? or is it booty? |
pzivh43 | 20 Jun 2019 4:49 p.m. PST |
Raise your hand if you want to have continued oil supplies, or if you want to have to live under the benevolent Chinese government, with their enlightened policies towards girl children and religious minorities. |
Old Glory | 20 Jun 2019 5:01 p.m. PST |
I think the people who do not understand the ramifications of all of this are the ones who will squeal when the thumb screws start getting tighten somewhere in the future? Oddly enough, probably the same people who do not understand the true purpose of tariffs and the difference between free trade and fair trade -- and the difference between immigration and illegal immigration? Russ Dunaway |
pzivh43 | 21 Jun 2019 4:45 a.m. PST |
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Tgunner | 21 Jun 2019 7:47 a.m. PST |
Lots of reason for us to be in Djibouti.. It's the Gulf hero. It's not brain surgery…
The base in Djibouti allows the US and its allies to keep an eye on the Gulf and keep the oil flowing. For the US???? "Why Gulf Oil Remains Vital Does the United States still have to worry about protecting its allies' access to Gulf oil and preventing a potential adversary from dominating the region? The answer to both questions is yes. While Europe's oil consumption is plateauing, and its dependence on oil from the Gulf is dwarfed by its reliance on Russia, South and East Asia have taken its place. The bulk of future demand growth will take place in the Asia-Pacific region, which accounts for over one-third of global oil consumption but less than one-tenth of production. The oil Asia requires comes largely from one region. India and China get half of their oil imports from the Gulf. Besides Australia, most U.S. allies and partners in Asia are even more dependent on the Gulf. Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Singapore, and Taiwan all draw more than three-quarters of their oil imports from the region. This could become a crippling vulnerability if a hostile power frustrated their access to that oil, which brings us to the second point." link Here's a question: do you like your standard of living??? If so raise your hands… |
Garand | 21 Jun 2019 8:49 a.m. PST |
Whether or not the US uses Middle Eastern oil is irrelevant. Oil is a commodity with pricing affected my the markets. And the US has an economy large enough that it has a global reach. So protecting the oil supply isn't just good for US allies & partners, but also for the US economy. Until we get to a point where reliance on oil declines, its going to be a key important strategic asset for the foreseeable future. Damon. |
Lion in the Stars | 21 Jun 2019 9:45 a.m. PST |
Yup. The US does not need to get oil from the Gulf to use domestically, we make plenty of fuel domestically. The US does need oil from the Gulf to keep flowing to avoid paying $4 USD+ a gallon for fuel. |
Mkultra99 | 21 Jun 2019 10:23 a.m. PST |
So.. China is going to invade the US and force us into Apple products slavery and apply thumbscrews are they? Call me skeptical.. And somehow peaceful negotiations and partnerships over obvious pointless aggression will lower my quality of life..? lol wut? We don't need middle east oil.. and should we decide we want it, are nations like Iran/Iraq/Syria/et al NOT going to sell it to us? Of course they are. Ill gladly pay $6 USD a gallon if it saves lives and means we quit spending all of our GDP on Israel and our military adventurism. Maybe then we can spend some of that money on infrastructure in our own country? Maybe spend some of that money on our own citizens? Some of you old guys are sick, why so hungry for a fight? Why so hungry for death and destruction? How do you not see that the US "foreign policy" is what has created these tensions in the first place? How do yo not see that it's possible this is all a fiction like the Gulf of Tonkin? Or "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION"? etc etc etc… At this point, isn't it reasonable and rational to maybe consider the possibility that our government is lying to us? |
Thresher01 | 22 Jun 2019 7:47 p.m. PST |
"The US does need oil from the Gulf to keep flowing to avoid paying $4 USD USD+ a gallon for fuel". Ha, ha, ha, you crack me up, Lion. Californians have been paying that and more for quite some time, and despite a small dip in the last week or so, things will only go higher due to that conveniently timed East Coast refinery fire, and the new, even higher taxes slated to be levied on fuel in the state starting July 1st. California has the dubious accomplishment of being "First" in terms of the highest fuel prices of any state in the nation, including Hawaii and Alaska, so that's saying something. On the quality of life scale, the state is quickly plummeting to last in the union, I suspect. "How do you not see that the US "foreign policy" is what has created these tensions in the first place? How do yo not see that it's possible this is all a fiction like the Gulf of Tonkin? Or "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION"?". Mkultra99, you're cracking me up too, with your nonsensical theories. |
Lion in the Stars | 23 Jun 2019 6:45 p.m. PST |
I'm talking locally to me for fuel prices. Shut off the entire flow of Middle East fuel and gas prices will more than double, probably more than triple. (see what happened in 2003-2004, when the Saudis were pumping all they could and gas prices still doubled.) Pretty sure Europe doesn't want to pay $30 USD/gal. I sure as hell don't want to pay $10 USD a gallon. I don't even want to pay $6.50 USD a gallon. |