"Looking 4 advice on painting AH BB Scotts" Topic
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Korvessa | 17 Jun 2019 12:20 p.m. PST |
That's "After Hastings" but "Before Braveheart." (1150s) I know the costumes in Braveheart were ridiculous. And I know modern tartans & Kilts weren't used. Further, Tunics were worn that looked same as anyone else in the era. (I recently read they used horse urine to die yellow – collecting that stuff must be one of the worst jobs ever) Would they have had cloaks in simple checked patterns? Something akin to what Ancient Gauls wore? I am looking for something between stark realism and romantic fantasy. So "plausible" works for me here. |
Colonel Bill | 17 Jun 2019 12:21 p.m. PST |
In the "someone has WAY too much time on his hands" category, remember Richard Bodley Scott, the deisgner of the Field of Glory miniature wargaming franchise, who then flexed his digital muscles by porting the games into PC software. Well some churl has now produced a complete compendium of all 300 Army Lists from the digital side, complete with images of the primary units therein. The resulting pdf document is now available for free download for those who might like to make a pewter v electron comparison. Seriously, as Johnny Depp said to Orlando Bloom in the first POTC movie, "Son, you need to find yourself a girl." link I think I remain like most folks. Given the face to face party like atmosphere, research, painting, GMing, etc, I much, MUCH prefer miniatures over PC gaming. But given there is no way in Hell I will ever start – much less finish – the five Ancients armies I've had sitting on the shelf for decades, this is damn near the best thing since sliced bread. Ciao, Colonel Bill |
Damion | 17 Jun 2019 8:59 p.m. PST |
Patterns similar to modern tartans most likely were used as such patterns have been found on cloth scraps from iron age mines in Austria and also on the Mummies from Urumchi who are thought to be Tocharians. Tartan like fabric also appears in the middle ages where it's used as cloth in Europe. There are paintings from 14th century Italy which show people wearing parti-coloured clothes with one side being plain and the other tartan. What the Scots wore will depend on who you're referring to. The Highlands and Islands most certainly wore similar clothing to the Irish which for the nobles was a saffron shirt and tartan cloak and apparently no trousers though they must have been present at the time. Southern Scotland, at least the south east, would have looked like the rest of Europe. The south west was a different culture zone, gaelic speaking but possibly closer to England like the south east was. Then below Galloway you had Cumbria, which was part of Scotland at the time and where a language similar to Welsh was still being spoken in parts but where Norse-Irish settlements also existed. Braveheart was late 1200s to early 1300s btw. At the time of Hastings, the Isle of Man, Ireland and most of Scotland except the Orkneys and south east were Gaelic speaking. Gaelic was replaced by English over much of the lowlands during the 14th century. |
Korvessa | 17 Jun 2019 9:34 p.m. PST |
Damion Thank you that helps. Mainly I am looking for Somerled's forces. By the way – I think my post title might be misleading. The period I am looking for is 1150s – that is between AH & BB; I wasn't trying to say Braveheart was in 1150s. |
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