| Au pas de Charge | 04 Jun 2019 11:58 a.m. PST |
Does anyone know to what extent the Danes, Prussians and Saxons used pikes in the GNW, if at all? And for the Prussians, use British 15mm Marlburian figures? The most confusing bit about this era is how many authors say a nation's uniform was generic but I can never find figures in that so-called generic uniform. |
| Steamingdave2 | 04 Jun 2019 2:46 p.m. PST |
As far as I am aware, Danes had got rid of pikes in the late 1680s, certainly those who were in William's Army in Ireland did not have them. No idea about the Prussians and Saxons. |
| dbf1676 | 04 Jun 2019 3:44 p.m. PST |
The Saxons and Prussians did not use pikes. The Danes did not use pikes in any of the field actions that I'm aware of. Late in the war, the Danes decided to reintroduce the pike, but I don't think that they ever used them in a battle. |
| RittervonBek | 04 Jun 2019 11:20 p.m. PST |
Dixon miniatures and Roundway miniatures should give you all you need. |
Gunfreak  | 05 Jun 2019 1:48 a.m. PST |
As they said, Danes and several German states got rid of the pike long before the Dutch, English and French.
Apparently, after Helsingborg, the Danes did think about reintroducing them, but they never did as far as I know.
It's also is suspect that they would consider it after Helsingborg, given that not only several Swedish regiments didn't use pikes in that battle, but the pikes that were there play very little or no part in the battle.
As I've said before Helsingborg is a very WSS type battle, the Swedish did not use their extremely aggressive GåPå tactics(at least not for the infantry)
Instead, they relied on firepower, a combination of musket fire with close range canister fire from 30 3pdrs. So why would the Danes suddenly want to use the pike, when the pike had no effect on that battle. The Danes got shot to pices and then attacked in the flanks by cavalry. |
| 9th Maine | 05 Jun 2019 8:14 a.m. PST |
It is nice that TMP provides a platform for the ignorant to give voice to their ignorance.
For the reintroduction of the pike after Gadebusch, December 1712, see the Danish General Staff's "Bidrag til den Store Nordiske Krigs Historie" Vol. 4, page 204. The reintroduction is a good example of drawing the wrong conclusion from a defeat.
Also, it was at Gadebusch where the Swedish Artillery played a significant roll, not Helsingborg. |
| Gunfreak | 05 Jun 2019 4:05 p.m. PST |
The Swedes had 30 or 32 3pdrs each placed between battalions. The swedish marched slowly forward for the artillery to keep up and then they blasted the Danes.
There was almost no contact between the infantry until the very end when the Danes started to break. But it's nice of you to show your ignorance. |
| dbf1676 | 06 Jun 2019 9:38 a.m. PST |
9th Marine, Who is displaying their ignorance here? What I said is exactly what the source you cited says. What Gunfreak says is Test they talked about it (which is correct), but that they were not reintroduced, as far as he knows, not that it didn't happen. |
| von Schwartz | 06 Jun 2019 5:04 p.m. PST |
This is not going to end well, |
| Au pas de Charge | 07 Jun 2019 5:15 a.m. PST |
I dont start a lot of threads but someone always detonates them. |
looks at a fast-assembly naval kit for the Age of Sail.