mysteron | 21 May 2019 1:56 a.m. PST |
I know basing isn't done by everyone but this is my first foray into naval wargaming and looking for tips and pointers for basing ships for Cruel Seas. I have seen a couple of methods with the use of ordinary household filler and another using a gloss gel medium but these tend to be geared towards more larger diorama type ships than gaming pieces . Any help will be most gratefully received . Thanks |
Fitzovich | 21 May 2019 3:19 a.m. PST |
I personally would not base them as it would make it more difficult to judge collisions. I have only based a few paper models due to the nature of the material involved but resin, plastic or lead are unbiased. |
Joe Legan | 21 May 2019 6:02 a.m. PST |
Curious why do you want to base? They are stable on the table without a base |
lloydthegamer | 21 May 2019 7:00 a.m. PST |
Joe, agree with most of the models, but the Japanese sampans are unstable and I did base them. |
Joe Legan | 21 May 2019 2:07 p.m. PST |
M For unstable pieces I would see how lloyd based them. I myself would probably use a little school glue to make the water effect and when it dries paint it |
mysteron | 22 May 2019 1:01 a.m. PST |
There are a few reasons why I want to base my models. 1) I tend to use the shallow type "Very Useful Boxes" to transport my models with and therefore anything from a humble Bren Carrier to a Magach 6 ( M60A3) are all based . Bases prevents the models from rubbing against each other when in transit to the club . 2) All of our members have based their models but for some reason the filler method they have adopted doesn't seem to float my boat 3) As I have mentioned before this is a stepping stone for me to Black Seas when that get released in the autumn. Therefore I have been practising rigging on the WW2 models in readiness . Napoleonic ships just don't look right without rigging IMO. 4) I think Basing for Black Seas models will be more important as they will be more delicate. 5) Apart from the S boats al of my models will be resin and the masts and fittings are more delicate. That's why I am looking to base. |
Lion in the Stars | 23 May 2019 5:55 p.m. PST |
Well, one method I've seen for basing ships is clear acrylic. Get some 1mm acrylic and glue the models to it. Problem solved! (if the edges are a little rough, just take a lighter to it for a couple seconds to smooth the scratches away). One downside is that it kinda elevates the ships a bit, so you want the thinnest base you can get. I totally agree that Black Seas ships are going to need to be based to protect the masts and rigging. |
Fitzovich | 24 May 2019 3:12 a.m. PST |
Lion offers a valid point. When I am basing figures, I use expended gift cards that I save as they are just the right thickness for my tastes and they are free. Kinda the gift that keeps on giving. |
mysteron | 24 May 2019 11:03 a.m. PST |
Thanks guys . That gives me something to think about . |
Schogun | 25 May 2019 5:06 a.m. PST |
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mysteron | 28 May 2019 5:57 a.m. PST |
Thanks Schogun . Those are very useful |
Lion in the Stars | 02 Jun 2019 5:50 a.m. PST |
Modern clamshell packaging is a free source for very thin yet stiff clear plastic material for basing. If I were going to base my ships I'd strongly consider that. |
mysteron | 03 Jun 2019 1:35 a.m. PST |
Thanks Lion in the Stars -I have already started basing my first Warlord Fairmile . I have used Renedra bases left over from other model soldier projects .I then painted them a mirky grey/green/blue colour . I have then used Liquitex Gloss medium and sculpted it with my smallest sculpting tool over the prepainted bases. I then highlighted some areas in an off white to represent white caps. So far I am pleased with the progress. As you all may know I am doing this really as a prelude to gathering and practising some techniques in readiness for War Lords release of Black Seas ( Age of sail) in the Autumn. On saying this I am being sucked in by Cruel seas as it is a very interesting segment of Naval Gaming not often covered by other ( Heroics and Ross) excepted of course. What I have noticed that to play Cruel Seas effectively , well to use torpedoes that most of the boats carry including the Starter Set models , one really needs to use merchant ships and I think more merchant ship models are needed to compliment the range. I have currently a Warlord Tanker Ship on my work bench . |