"Limping Towards a Conclusion: The Awkward GoT Afterparty" Topic

So many questions. Most notable:

Who made BRON "Master of Coin"?

Can he even count? (Maybe)

Is he in any way financially responsible? (By example, obviously not)

I he in any way trustworthy? (As proven, NO)

After having extorted the richest holding in Westeros*, rather than living his life out in carefree pastoral comfort, he takes a 40-hour a week job in the city. The commute must be horrible.

And, could we have been given some kind of establishing shot of King's Landing being restored? It MIGHT have served as, I don't know, some indication of TIME LAPSE, which is a tool people who know how to write worth a crap sometimes use. Was the Red Keep not condemned as unsafe for habitation after the assault?

(* Remember in the old Masters of the Universe cartoon, there were pretty much NO supporting characters. It was just the guys they made toys of, running around, peopling this tiny-seeming world of JUST the guys whose pictures were on the back of the toy package. HBO's GoT is like that. Every member of a noble house that we see is EVERY member of that house. Because people are confused by the notion that they are not seeing EVERYTHING that is going on in the world all the time.)

Who made BRON "Master of Coin"?

Tyrion, obviously. As repayment of his debts including paying double what anyone else (Queen Cersei) will pay to have him killed.

End of Ep. 5: Aria mounts a white horse and rides off through the devastation, to an uncertain future.

Beginning of Ep. 6. Horse is gone, Aria hasn't gone anywhere, nor does she do anything worthwhile.

She sails in search of the unknown, maybe because: spin-off, maybe they had no idea what to do with the character. Or both.

WHY DOES GREY WORK GET A VOTE ON ANYTHING? He's a nobody. He and his Unsullied could take the "300" way out, or take their business elsewhere. He the mad dog, and The Bad Guy. Why is he treated like a reasonable equal?

Tyrion, obviously. As repayment of his debts including paying double what anyone else (Queen Cersei) will pay to have him killed.

He implied that he was already "paid in full", which he was.

He doesn't NEED a job. He's solely in charge of the bread basket of Westeros. Is he after the benefits package?

It's just stupid fanservice. Did the writers need to call back to what became of Bron? Probably, but not necessarily. Really, they whole sub-plot about him and the crossbow was needless anyway. Anyway, it was a clumsy detail.

The whole Small Council scene was one of the dumbest in the entire series, hands down.

The whole Small Council scene was one of the dumbest in the entire series, hands down.

I rather liked it and it added a facet that while somewhat contentious, they all pretty much liked (some greater, others less) and RESPECTED each other and would work things out.

To me it added a very nice closing "tone" to what has otherwise been nothing but an eight year brawl!

The part I liked the least this season was the fight between Euron and Jamie. Pure hollywood crap.

The last episode I thought was good though, the inclusion of Bron on the small council aside, I thought it wrapped things up nicely.

I liked that Arya didn't do anything in the end, although I don't understand why she was given a ship to sail west. Has she done much in the way of ship captaining before? It just seemed odd. Obviously she wasn't going to be happy to settle down in Westeros with some dude but it seemed an odd choice.

I think it would have been better if they had made her Sansa's hand.

The only scene that I thought came from good writing or storyline, was the one where Briane writes Jamie's accomplishments in the White Cloaks book.
It certainly was NOT an epic ending for an epic story.

And, what about Poderick Payne ?

As good as we could expect given how they'd painted themselves into a corner.

I don't have to much trouble with the end, the council scene was fine.

Jon finally petted ghost and that was the most important thing. I just wish he could have smiled at the very end, a little smirk so show he was content.

My biggest problem was how easy it was, pyromeniac dragons is content (and intelligent enough) to destroy the iron throne, like it knew the throne was the root of all evil, and had led to the death of his mother. The dragons have shown no higher thought like that before.

And the unsullied and particularly the dothraki are content with jailing Jon and not brutally murdering him on the spot?

Last episode kind of went out with a whimper, rather than a bang. Whole season felt that way. Should have gone with 10 episodes, 1.5 hrs long. Oh wel it be done.

As Emily LaTella would say "Nevermind"
I found him.

WHY DOES GREY WORK GET A VOTE ON ANYTHING? He's a nobody. He and his Unsullied could take the "300" way out, or take their business elsewhere. He the mad dog, and The Bad Guy. Why is he treated like a reasonable equal?

Well he does have what is left of the Unsullied, which even with the Battle with the Dead was in the several thousands.

Yes he will be an issue for the future since I can see him arriving in Naath and taking it over.

even with the Battle with the Dead was in the several thousands

Yes, they should have called them "immortals". But really there are as many or as few as need be at the time. Just like the Dothraki who were wiped out to a man, but respawned when needed later.
And I can really see the Unsullied locking up Jon rather than killing him on the spot. Its good to see a bunch of cold murderers who are utterly, fanatically devoted to their queen patiently turn the matter over to due process, for a trial by his peers. Right.

The Dothraki didn't seem to be needed for much of anything.

Well they lost quite a few at the Battle of Winterfall.

The Red Witch really have not like them.

Gave them Flaming Swords and around 10,000 of them charged off to die.

Sure not all of them but you do not charge 10,000 into a mass of 100,000+ that will only end one way.

And, what about Poderick Payne ?

He became a Kingsguard / Wheelchair pusher.

I thought some things worked and some things were 'meh' rather than being bad.
It was rushed and the Dany thing should have been fleshed out more. If Jamie strangled Cersei while the red keep was falling, it would have been more fitting for both characters. It would also have been great to have a quick scene of Bran looking down at his scar from the Night King and giving a little smirk – just to make the ending a little bit uncomfortable.
Apparently all the prophesy stuff meant nothing.

Small council scene was fine for me and the least of the many troublesome things in the finale.

As to the Unsullied, please allow me to introduce facts and math into the discussion.

When they were bought, I believe there were 7,000 as quoted in the episode.

After the battle of the dead, Grey Worm says that half are gone, so that leaves 3,500.

In all the other fighting they did in between, there were definitely casualties as depicted on screen. Let us be generous and say 1,000 more casualties before that. Heck, lets be really generous and say those casualties included the battle to take back Kings Landing.

That leaves 2,500 Unsullied to defend Kings Landing with who knows how many Dothraki – who probably aren't that skilled in defending a city.

So the entire seven kingdoms did not have enough to beat 2,500 Unsullied and some cavalry?

I don't think recruiting for the Unsullied happened during that time. Probably not many volunteers for becoming a eunuch and a draconian (no pun intended) training regime.

Forget common sense – the math just doesn't work out.

If it was 1000 casualties before it would have been 6,000 before Winterfell, so if half were gone that would still leave 3,000.

The North was also pretty depleted of soldiers by the end. The Iron Fleet was basically gone, both of them, along with many of their sailors.

The Lannister army was completely wiped out. The Kingsguard were probably mostly dead.

The Riverlands had their leadership destroyed.

New Lords were in Dorn, Highgarten and the Stormlands, the latter having many of their soldiers taken north and lost by Stannis.

The Vale was possibly mostly in-tact.

so 3,000 suicidally-brave, disciplined and well-trained soldiers backed up with some pretty ferocious cavalry might have presented a serious threat.

It isn't that they couldn't defeat them, it is that they didn't want to pay the cost to do so if it could be avoided.

Nevermind the fact that they didn't know where Drogon was or what he would do.

I think that when Dany's gave her speech you were looking at what was remaining of the Dothraki, which were not that many.

Also there really was not that much left to fight with since the fighting prior killed off tens of thousands.

So yes it would be easier to let the Unsullied sail away.

But I can see the Isles of Naath rising since once Greyworm got there he was going to take it over and carry out Dany's plan.

I feel Jon's arc was a bit wasted the way it ended.

I think it might have been a lot more satisfying if Jon & Dany had stabbed each other to death simultaneously in front of the Iron Throne.

They both had equally good reason to do so.

Seeing how the final season ended makes me wonder how good the writing for any prequels or sequels will be.

Well Jon is going to be North of the Wall and I think he is going to disregard that he not suppose to have children.

Bran is going to be King for like the next 50-60 years give or take.

You cannot plot against him because he will know.