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aynsley68328 Apr 2019 5:34 a.m. PST

Am looking to buy some footsore figures, mainly the late roman and goth mounted, because they look really good.

From what I've been able to find online it is said the footsore is slightly taller than foundry but not enough where you can't mix them in a unit , side by side. Yes I know foundry has some different sculpts within a range (Persians being one and some middle imperial Romans the other I think).

Can anyone here confirm please, as most of my late Roman/Arthurian figures are foundry. I do like the look of the footsore stuff. Looked on ebay if anyone had a single pack I could buy but no luck.

Come In Nighthawk28 Apr 2019 6:10 a.m. PST

No offense meant but unless we're taking about mixing 40mm figures in with 25mm, I always find the question, "what can I do, ABC figures are slightly taller than XYZ figures" a bit funny. I was talking to a store manager when i was inquiring about figures from two of his lines that his parent company were selling at the time that I wanted to "mix" to make more varied an "army" for a certain "fantasy trilogy" that was popular in film about 10-odd years ago. The young man "warned" me one line was a rather more "sender" 25mm, while the other was a bit more "robust," and was 28mm. To which I, at a bit under 6 ft. (a bit under 1.8 meters) said to him who was about 5 ft. 4 inches (or barely 1.6 meters): "How tall are you?"

Take a look at the back rank (since they are the ones standing) in this pix of "Gallant Company L" here, to see what I mean.

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Under this philosophical approach, I freely mix Warlord, Foundry, Newline, and Redoubt figures in my "Bronze Age" battalions.

Knob28 Apr 2019 6:17 a.m. PST

Footsore use to be Musketeer Miniatures. The first pic in this link is a direct comparison.

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Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Apr 2019 7:37 a.m. PST

I have both ranges; personally, I wouldn't mix them. If after variety you might try 1st Corps- they are quite a good match for Foundry.

aynsley68328 Apr 2019 8:24 a.m. PST

Nighthawk-no offends taken at all but you must admit some ranges just do not mix well.

Calavera- Thats one of the pictures I'd found, thank you.

dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP28 Apr 2019 8:49 a.m. PST

BigRedBat do you have any comparison pictures?

I don't mind a few giants, or midgets as the case may be, but half a unit or a third? No. Fortunately for Ancients we don't need to be concerned about weapon size or even terrain as long as the giants are few

Spooner628 Apr 2019 9:03 a.m. PST

Where I struggle mixing ranges is when it comes to gear. If one figures M1 Garand is bulky and the plastic figure next to it is thin then the two figures will not mix well regardless of size difference or lack there of. Just my take on mixing ranges.

Chris

Come In Nighthawk28 Apr 2019 10:20 a.m. PST

Yes, there are some lines that look woefully out of place -- and even some figures w/in a line where the majority mix well enough but a minority do not (sometimes do not even seem to mix all that well w/in their own range!!). Spooner6 has a good point as it comes to accouterments! It is because of that that I prefer separate shields (as just one example & a big one!). That allows me to swap out the shields that don't seem "quite right?"

Now, let us be honest. In my own case, in the Bronze Age, had they heard of the "assembly line" and uniform standards in "mass production??" Was just finishing reading Robt. Drews' new (to me) book on "Militarization" of Europe by the Indo-Europeans. The lengths of various swords were pretty surely "uniform" if cast by the same smith from his molds, although in working them afterwards can we be sure they were exactly to the "millimeter" the same length? And two different smiths w/ two different molds? If you don't have Drews' book, just check some illustrations in the relevant Osprey "Cliff Notes!"

Okay, so the "Late Romans," with their organized (mostly) production at "imperial factories" probably achieved a level of "uniformity" that, as with Spooner6's comment about WW2 rifles, warrants getting figures with swords, spears, shields and the like to match quite closely! But the Goths? Except when they overran an "imperial factory?" Well, just my duo denarii!. grin

aynsley68328 Apr 2019 5:47 p.m. PST

Nighthawk-
We are getting away from my original question, will footsore and foundry late Romans mix well together ?

Bescause I know Dixon samurai will not mix with Perry's samurai at all , not even close, both have same weapons and armour etc. Or even xyston 15mm figures won't mix with s0me other 15mm figures as xyston 15's are closer to 18mm tall, so I have 5 foot guys fighting next to 7 foot guys in one unit. You do raise interesting points but not the ones I asked about,

Damion28 Apr 2019 6:49 p.m. PST

Problem with saying x-company produces x-size is that there are variations in ranges which I assume is down to the sculptor or perhaps the prevailing size at the time. Not all Foundry are the same height and significant differences in height occur. I have two with a 5mm height difference between them.

Even victrix has a slightly different size for their cavalry riders as they made them the same height as a standing figure despite their legs spread wide for sitting on a horse.

Oregon01 Supporting Member of TMP28 Apr 2019 7:16 p.m. PST

I would not mix in the same unit they are bigger…however….the footsore miniatures are nice you would not regret getting them

aynsley68329 Apr 2019 4:00 a.m. PST

Oregon01 and Big Red-thank you both, will cast my eye around for some alternatives, mainly looking for barbarian type Cv to play foedaratti types or armies of their own.
As foundry only really have 5 or 6 different poses, so need a few more to flesh that out a bit without resorting to moving arms and heads around.

TodCreasey29 Apr 2019 5:27 a.m. PST

Also agree with not mixing. Footsore are my default though so I would start with them.

Marcus Brutus29 Apr 2019 6:16 a.m. PST

I am painting up a Late Roman army. Went with Foundry but later came to appreciate the Footsore line. Unfortunately they do not mix well together as I much as I would like them to. It is a combination of size, girth and style. If you are looking for a better match I would suggest Warlord's Romano-Britons and the Crusader Later Romans. I heard someone mention that the Gripping Plastics are a decent match but I can't testify to this personally. I've changed my mind about 1st Corp Arthurians. I think they might be a tad too big although I have mixed a few in. Others have mentioned on other related subjects that it is Footsore/Gripping Beast that mix well.

whill429 Apr 2019 7:25 p.m. PST

Footsore and Crusader would mix well

Marcus Brutus30 Apr 2019 7:53 a.m. PST

I think Crusader is the transitional figure between Foundry and Footsore and looks good with both. With Crusader and Foundry I had to file down the Crusader base because it was so much thicker than the Foundry. The deeper base thickness helps Crusader fit in nicely with the marginally larger Footsore figure.

ether drake12 May 2019 10:08 p.m. PST

I have Footsore, Foundry and Gripping Beast.

Footsore and GB mix well as they are similar proportions and heights.

The Foundry are lovely but the Late Roman infantry are considerably smaller and slighter 25mm scale. However, the Late Roman cavalry and related Saxon range are closer to the Footsore, though Footsore horses are much bigger the Foundry horses are arguably historically appropriate ponies.

French Wargame Holidays13 May 2019 1:25 p.m. PST

Footsore, crusader and blacktree all mix well, Foundry are much smaller as are gripping beast.


I have quite a large army made up of footsore, crusader and Black tree, with a smattering of Foundry, and Gripping beast

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Matt
Hercé Salon de Guerre
Mayenne, France
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