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Tango0123 Apr 2019 12:30 p.m. PST

….Discovery's Third Season.

"Last week, Star Trek: Discovery's second season finale delivered more explosions than a full compliment of photon torpedoes ever could. But with them, it also delivered one of the biggest status quo shifts a Star Trek show has ever contemplated—and it wasn't just shocking, it brought with it some truly fascinating promise.

"Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2" concluded with Michael Burnham and the Discovery having to actually act on a plan most shows would usually leave to the "dire scenario our heroes asspull their ways out of at the last minute" sort of cliffhanger archetype. In order to stop the dangerous A.I. system known as Control from gaining the data it needed to become sentient (and, y'know, destroy all meatbags), Michael and the crew construct an angelic time-traveling suit that the former uses to pull the latter, and the Discovery itself, a whopping 930 years into the future—permanently.

In one shocking moment, Star Trek: Discovery stopped being a prequel to the very first Star Trek show, and instead became the farthest-flung series in the venerable franchise's entire history. And not just farthest flung by a couple of decades, as was the gap between Deep Space Nine and the upcoming Jean-Luc Picard show, or even a century like the leap from Star Trek to The Next Generation. Nine entire centuries puts Discovery now in a timeline so far removed from the rest of its predecessors that they might as well be in a completely different series…."
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Calico Bill23 Apr 2019 1:41 p.m. PST

I wrote off STD a long time ago. Sounds like they're getting pretty desperate for plots.

irishserb23 Apr 2019 2:57 p.m. PST

Every time I think I've come to terms with the death of Star Trek, they did up the corpse and do something horrific to it.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2019 4:12 p.m. PST

Nine entire centuries puts Discovery now in a timeline so far removed from the rest of its predecessors that they might as well be in a completely different series…

Maybe that was the purpose. If there's an upside, this would hopefully mean they could exchange their horrid antiquated ship for something newer and sexier, a la the Enterprise-E.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2019 5:28 p.m. PST

So, how long before Captain Hunt and the Andromeda Ascendant make a guest appearance? Or will STD just quietly make royalty payments?

Patrick R24 Apr 2019 5:02 a.m. PST

The first season had two big problems, it wanted to be anything BUT a Star Trek show. The other was a major writing problem, there is a huge gap between having a cool idea and actually working it into a narrative.

Traditional narratives have a story in which character interaction is dictated by the plot.

About 10-15 years ago writers like Moore and Abrams introduced the concept that the story is unimportant and that character interaction, preferably antagonistic can drive a show, worked for Galactica and Lost … almost because when it came time to move the story they had nothing at all and the internet collective had already second guessed anything they could come up with.

Writers have yet to learn from those mistakes and still prefer character drama to an actual story and it came back to haunt STD.

Second season showed some improvements, they made more nods to the originals but with so much stuff being capsule moments birthed in a brain-storming session the night before filming, nothing feels earned and all you get is a kind of sense that you have to show a certain emotion because deep down you feel that in a traditional narrative they would have built up to this moment being sad or happy.

The third season will fix one of the major problems of the show, don't try to jam it into the continuity and prequel it, set it after TNG where it would not feel jarring when previous stories tried really hard to establish the TOS esthetic as visual canon.

But then again, sending a Federation ship into a distant future full of mystery sounds an awful lot like the plot for Andromeda …

Tango0124 Apr 2019 11:19 a.m. PST

Glup!….


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Thresher0124 Apr 2019 5:34 p.m. PST

Not reading much of the above, to avoid spoilers, in case it ever gets released on "free TV".

If not, many of us will never know.

StarCruiser25 Apr 2019 6:57 a.m. PST

Or care..?

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