"Face Another Foe?" Topic

Face Another Foe: Wargaming the Lace wars 1600-1720

Does anyone know where there might be a review of this rule set? Thanks

Just ordered a copy. I'll post something based on first impressions as soon as….. !

Thanks. Got mine…… spot the error in the QRS on the back pages?

So besides the error in the QRS, what are first impressions?

Tally Ho!

…. some interesting ideas but ultimately not for me as I don't think it suits my 6mm WSS collection.
I am not a fan these days of indiviual figure removel, preferring to keep a base intact (like in Black Powder, say).
Also, in the mass battles I do these seem a bit too geared to big skirmish with fire dice allocated to each separate figure (resulting in 10x dice 10 for a base) also, I am not sure if a fire die mod for "resting weapon" is applicable at this scale of mass battle…… but as I say some interesting ideas for a rul collector as myself, and they will certainly suit some folks…..

…….. just heard from the author that it's one die per unit and not as advised by Caliver. There's only one way to settle this ( as Harry Hill says)! (maybe it's one die per BASE as there are three in a unit??)

In the original post it says:
Face Another Foe: Wargaming the Lace wars 1600-1720

On Partizan Press:
Face Another Foe covers roughly one hundred years, from 1650 to 1750

Which is it? If your looking into the 30 years war that makes some difference. And there is this "Face Another Foe moves away from single figure basing and figure removal." Soooo?

Lace wars from 1600: strange period definition.
Introducing new rules without any rule explanation, review etc is not consumer friendly. Having the dates of the period wrong is stupid.

…Page 5 states" 1650 to 1750 taking in the Jacobite wars, GNW, War of Austrian Succession, WSS, Russias wars with Turkey"
Scenarios from Pge 37 on are :
Dutch Wars 1672-78
War of devolutution 1667-68
War of Grand Alliance 1688-97
WSS 1701-14
Great N. War 1700-21

I remain a bit confused as to what fire dice to allocate. Caliver appears to have replied to me with incorrect info. The author's reply states 1 x D10 per unit which presumably means for the three bases which make up one unit, rather than one per each of the three bases in the unit…. however, the Kill list on page 23 goes up to 30 hits which hardly seems possible with just one die, even with mods.
The set is based on an older set "Mad Dogs & Englishmen" which I believe is skirmish based (?) and I think these rules are an adaption of that system for a more massed combat. Interesting set and I am not disappointed, though for my games (massed 6mm WSS) there are better, easier rules.

Got my copy yesterday, nice book, however there is no explanation on the allocation of firing dice, as above! May have a quick play and see, whether to allocate one dice per unit, or one per base in a unit,

Tally Ho!

Just received my copy and my first impressions are positive. Maybe I need to read through a couple more times and push some metal about before I declare. One thing strikes me …. under the heading of Turn Sequence there doesn't appear to be a sequence, am I missing something?

……… correct. there is no turn sequence given. It may be to do with the cards assigned to the Generals ? and how they are played.

Huh… good point, be good to have that clarified. BTW any idea what the alledged mistake on the QRS is…..?
Although I've been reading rules over 45 years now, I do get frustrated when I have to second guess or interpret things if they are not laid out, guess I'm getting lazy in my old age!

……. the last two lines on the fire chart are repeated.

I need to go to Specsavers…. thank you!

can anyone give some info about basing for 28mm or 6mm
no reviews yet ?
Alex

I am glad I am not the only one having issues with the basics of these rules, I thought they had some interesting points, but surely this day and age we have moved on from such basic short comings in shooting and combat methods. Sorry not worth the stock illustrations, more time in explaining to the reader what you mean would have been better.

…….yes, interesting but ultimately very disappointing.

I saw these rules and the scenario book at a friends today. Have not tried them, but was concerned about some of the Army lists and scenario information.

Three examples.
. French infantry for the Nine Years War are all stated to be armed with matchlocks, but according to John Lynn's work ‘Giant of the Grand Siecle' they were armed with both matchlock and Flintlock on a 50/50 ratio.

Eugene's infantry at Blenheim is listed as Prussian, Danish and Imperial. As far as I know there were no Imperial infantry in his command.

Malplaquet – my understanding has been that there is no OOB for the actual day of the battle, only the armies as they were a short time before. Maybe that is what the scenario is based on. Also D'Artagnan's command lists 3 artillery units. Assuming this is supposed to represent the 20 gun battery which is known to be placed on his left, I was not sure how the 3 units represented this.

So wanted to like these rules, but ultimately frustrated by them, the lack of explanation and detail as voiced in other comments has consigned them to the dusty shelf.
Any chance of a detailed update, FAQS etc?