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Fantasy Flight Games announced the Imperial Death Troopers set for Star Wars Legion

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Here's a physical copy of my 2mm 3D printed figures.

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They came out out pretty well, I think. The Austrian battalion is over 1000 figures and is about 16" wide. Dozens of these battalions printed off and painted in a similar, simple manner should create a very nice effect on the table top.

I love a good Bug….

On balance I prefer the 2mm figures. I just lov ethe lines with the supernumaries front and back, looking as the really did.

I work with the right cuff lace, buttons, or turnback ornaments, but can appreciate great modelling of reality

But could an Austrian battalion hold back Imperial Death Troopers????

Depends…are Death Troopers part of the Old or Middle Guard?

Well we know Storm trooper body armor is worthless, so I am going with the Austrians.

The One True Scale will be victorious.

Can these ones actually hit anything?

Well, there are over 1000 Austrians, so they're bound to hit something.

I gotta admit, I do like the effect FMS is getting with his en mass armies.

(is that actually 1:1 head:trooper in 2mm? I know your 3mm was something like 3:4 due to extra space between troopers)

Have to agree with fms. TOTS, if I chucked dice, would be something like this. If I want to do brass ornaments on a sabretache, but still create a cavalry regt (of twelve, yes twelve figures), I'll stick to 28mm as a compromise "scale"

The effect here is superb. Siborne, eat yer heart out….

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These are actually at 1:1 as long as the average height of a man at the time was 5'4" : ) Which I believe it was, so these actually are 1:1 scale models at 2mm.

What did you use to print these?

I use my 3D files at forwardmarchstudios.com (catch the fever!) and I used treatstock.com to print them. In particular a printer whi goes by RexRoi in Los Angeles. There are hundreds of printers on treatstock and at 3dHubs, so there's one near you no matter where you live.

I had these printed in PLA on an FDM printer. I can't remember which make or model printer. If you buy the Library and go to print these be sure to let the printer know to try out their high detail settings, and to let you see a sample before you commit to a huge order. They should be happy to oblige you.

These are actually at 1:1 as long as the average height of a man at the time was 5'4" : ) Which I believe it was, so these actually are 1:1 scale models at 2mm.

I'm missing something here. What is it?

If a real battalion is 180 yards long, and the model is 16" long (ignoring any gaps which shouldn't be there) then the model scale is 180 x 36 / 16 or 1:400.

A 1:400 model of man in hat would be 5.5' * 300 mm/ft /400 = 4mm tall (not 2mm).

Conversely -
A man is 1680mm tall. So a 2mm figure must be 1:840. Therefore a 180 yards long battalion should be (180*36)/840 or 8" long.

16" was a very rough estimate; it is smaller than that. But I think you are confusing things.

A "real battalion" is, of course, only as big as the number of men in the battalion standing in line. You can't really say "a battalion was x frontage" as a standard measurement, because they varied in the number of men. My models come in a large number of figures per company, so that gamers can model battalions at different strengths. An Austrian battalion could have 1200 men or 600 men (or even less by the end of a particularly bad firefight).

Wargame measurement is to the eye of the model,but let us say it's to the top of the head. 5'4" is 1.62 meters. Divide that by half to get .81 meter = 1mm. .8m is 2.6 feet (31"). Each figure on the block is around .66 mm frontage with the gap includes,or 2.1 feet (25.2"). A man standing shoulder to shoulder was assumed to take up about 24" of frontage in a unit (depending on the army). I bathtub away the 1.2". If there was any error in the alignment of the unit I assume that it would only make the unit wider (even if only by a few feet over the frontage of the unit), not narrower. The difference would show up over a unit as large as an Austrian battalion, but it would only represent a few extra millimeter of space on the table top; so little at this scale that it wouldn't be noticeable to anyone who was measuring in in CAD, and who knew to look for it. You can't tell with the naked eye; its too fine. That's how I get to 2mm.

My cavalry, artillery, officers, and buildings are all set to the exact same scale, so that you can use my range to do complete, mathematically perfect 1:1 scale model battles. The cavalry are scaled at exactly the same scale as the infantry. The officers, artillery crew, and the NCOs behind the infantry are a bit fat to add some structural stability. But we're talking an extra .25mm here on completely freestanding figures. Once again, nobody can tell without using CAD to do the measurements, and they'd have to really know it to notice even then.

Interesting…

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